1 00:00:45,610 --> 00:00:24,960 [Music] 2 00:01:10,830 --> 00:00:45,620 so 3 00:01:13,620 --> 00:01:10,840 [Music] 4 00:01:27,160 --> 00:01:13,630 so 5 00:01:27,170 --> 00:01:39,109 [Music] 6 00:01:39,119 --> 00:02:18,970 foreign 7 00:02:18,980 --> 00:02:38,229 [Music] 8 00:02:38,239 --> 00:03:00,980 hi everyone listening um 9 00:03:00,990 --> 00:03:47,270 [Music] 10 00:03:51,589 --> 00:03:49,270 hey everyone welcome to jo4hub 11 00:03:52,630 --> 00:03:51,599 livestream and today is open lines so 12 00:03:55,110 --> 00:03:52,640 i'm hoping to 13 00:03:56,070 --> 00:03:55,120 talk a lot talk with a lot of you uh 14 00:03:58,710 --> 00:03:56,080 please log in 15 00:03:59,670 --> 00:03:58,720 using telegram you can find the ufo up 16 00:04:01,509 --> 00:03:59,680 group there 17 00:04:02,949 --> 00:04:01,519 join the voice chat and you'll be able 18 00:04:05,190 --> 00:04:02,959 to talk to me directly 19 00:04:07,110 --> 00:04:05,200 it's basically a time when um we can 20 00:04:09,190 --> 00:04:07,120 just relax online 21 00:04:11,670 --> 00:04:09,200 hang out and basically share different 22 00:04:15,110 --> 00:04:11,680 stories anything metaphysical 23 00:04:15,670 --> 00:04:15,120 spiritual and and the uh supernatural in 24 00:04:17,270 --> 00:04:15,680 general 25 00:04:19,670 --> 00:04:17,280 you know some people have experiences 26 00:04:21,909 --> 00:04:19,680 with ufos aliens ghosts you name 27 00:04:23,430 --> 00:04:21,919 it so that's the kind of stuff i've 28 00:04:28,070 --> 00:04:23,440 always been interested in and 29 00:04:29,909 --> 00:04:28,080 always want to provide at least a um not 30 00:04:31,830 --> 00:04:29,919 an alternative but 31 00:04:33,590 --> 00:04:31,840 a platform where you can at least find 32 00:04:34,150 --> 00:04:33,600 out that there's more crazies like us 33 00:04:36,469 --> 00:04:34,160 out there 34 00:04:38,469 --> 00:04:36,479 so it's not just always you know those 35 00:04:40,310 --> 00:04:38,479 um uh 36 00:04:41,909 --> 00:04:40,320 weird people that you always ever hear 37 00:04:42,550 --> 00:04:41,919 about but don't want to have anything to 38 00:04:44,950 --> 00:04:42,560 do with 39 00:04:46,950 --> 00:04:44,960 it's just normal everyday people have in 40 00:04:49,830 --> 00:04:46,960 our normal everyday lives that 41 00:04:51,350 --> 00:04:49,840 extraordinary things happen to so we 42 00:04:52,070 --> 00:04:51,360 can't share it with anyone else but 43 00:04:55,030 --> 00:04:52,080 ourselves 44 00:04:56,230 --> 00:04:55,040 so i hope you at least get out of the 45 00:04:58,870 --> 00:04:56,240 supernatural closet 46 00:05:00,150 --> 00:04:58,880 and share your story publicly with me 47 00:05:03,590 --> 00:05:00,160 and um i guess this 48 00:05:04,790 --> 00:05:03,600 gun kind of came about um uh based on 49 00:05:08,629 --> 00:05:04,800 the 50 00:05:10,070 --> 00:05:08,639 always wanting to 51 00:05:11,909 --> 00:05:10,080 i guess share their stories but i didn't 52 00:05:15,189 --> 00:05:11,919 have a platform for a while there 53 00:05:16,150 --> 00:05:15,199 i tried starting a blog and so then to 54 00:05:18,550 --> 00:05:16,160 maybe 55 00:05:19,590 --> 00:05:18,560 somebody or whoever wanted to they could 56 00:05:22,629 --> 00:05:19,600 write in and then 57 00:05:24,150 --> 00:05:22,639 i'll post their story but that somehow 58 00:05:25,270 --> 00:05:24,160 didn't work out because i guess you have 59 00:05:28,390 --> 00:05:25,280 to write it all out 60 00:05:30,310 --> 00:05:28,400 so i figured maybe calling and uh just 61 00:05:32,310 --> 00:05:30,320 chit chatting would make it easier so 62 00:05:34,469 --> 00:05:32,320 again you can download the telegram 63 00:05:35,749 --> 00:05:34,479 app on the phone you can download it on 64 00:05:38,469 --> 00:05:35,759 your computer 65 00:05:39,590 --> 00:05:38,479 find the ufo hub group uh the link are 66 00:05:41,029 --> 00:05:39,600 also 67 00:05:43,029 --> 00:05:41,039 the links actually for a lot of 68 00:05:44,150 --> 00:05:43,039 different social media for ufo hub are 69 00:05:47,029 --> 00:05:44,160 in the descriptions 70 00:05:48,469 --> 00:05:47,039 i believe in facebook is above the video 71 00:05:51,029 --> 00:05:48,479 on youtube is below 72 00:05:52,870 --> 00:05:51,039 and you'll find the telegram group link 73 00:05:55,430 --> 00:05:52,880 right there and so 74 00:05:57,110 --> 00:05:55,440 uh yeah just join it if if you just want 75 00:05:58,230 --> 00:05:57,120 to use your phone to listen because 76 00:06:01,430 --> 00:05:58,240 we're 77 00:06:02,390 --> 00:06:01,440 casting right now to your to the ufo hub 78 00:06:05,510 --> 00:06:02,400 channel on youtube 79 00:06:06,230 --> 00:06:05,520 facebook and twitch and voice only over 80 00:06:08,550 --> 00:06:06,240 telegram 81 00:06:09,590 --> 00:06:08,560 so if you're working or just want to 82 00:06:11,350 --> 00:06:09,600 listen over 83 00:06:12,870 --> 00:06:11,360 over your phone but can't necessarily 84 00:06:16,710 --> 00:06:12,880 watch this this will be 85 00:06:18,870 --> 00:06:16,720 your opportunity so anyway uh today i 86 00:06:20,230 --> 00:06:18,880 i don't as always don't necessarily have 87 00:06:22,230 --> 00:06:20,240 any topics um 88 00:06:24,150 --> 00:06:22,240 i'm not going to go into covering 89 00:06:26,790 --> 00:06:24,160 certain areas unless maybe some of you 90 00:06:27,670 --> 00:06:26,800 in chat or over telegram might ask me to 91 00:06:30,469 --> 00:06:27,680 do so but 92 00:06:31,029 --> 00:06:30,479 i generally wanted to um hear your 93 00:06:32,870 --> 00:06:31,039 stories 94 00:06:34,710 --> 00:06:32,880 but at least for maybe just a few 95 00:06:37,029 --> 00:06:34,720 minutes if you don't mind whoever do 96 00:06:39,990 --> 00:06:37,039 whoever does call in or maybe even over 97 00:06:42,390 --> 00:06:40,000 chat if you feel like writing that long 98 00:06:43,270 --> 00:06:42,400 to just tell me what your thoughts are 99 00:06:45,270 --> 00:06:43,280 whether you're 100 00:06:46,950 --> 00:06:45,280 disappointed about this ufo report that 101 00:06:49,189 --> 00:06:46,960 came out if you 102 00:06:50,390 --> 00:06:49,199 um kind of like me thinking well this is 103 00:06:53,270 --> 00:06:50,400 just the beginning and 104 00:06:53,670 --> 00:06:53,280 every average joe has to start somewhere 105 00:06:55,909 --> 00:06:53,680 so 106 00:06:57,909 --> 00:06:55,919 this this was a perfect way to ease it 107 00:06:59,909 --> 00:06:57,919 in or do you have different thoughts 108 00:07:01,270 --> 00:06:59,919 so please share it with me if you are in 109 00:07:03,350 --> 00:07:01,280 chat whether 110 00:07:05,189 --> 00:07:03,360 you are on facebook or any of the other 111 00:07:06,790 --> 00:07:05,199 platforms if you have a 112 00:07:08,629 --> 00:07:06,800 specific question for me please make 113 00:07:10,230 --> 00:07:08,639 sure to put the three stars 114 00:07:11,990 --> 00:07:10,240 before your question so i know it's 115 00:07:14,870 --> 00:07:12,000 directed towards me and not 116 00:07:15,430 --> 00:07:14,880 just a chat with someone in the room and 117 00:07:21,110 --> 00:07:15,440 so 118 00:07:21,120 --> 00:07:25,510 i want to 119 00:07:29,670 --> 00:07:28,790 go and to jeremy corbett's website 120 00:07:32,150 --> 00:07:29,680 because 121 00:07:33,189 --> 00:07:32,160 for those who who who might not have 122 00:07:36,070 --> 00:07:33,199 been aware of 123 00:07:37,430 --> 00:07:36,080 just yesterday i believe more footage 124 00:07:45,589 --> 00:07:37,440 was 125 00:07:47,350 --> 00:07:45,599 i just want to show you the footage in 126 00:07:48,550 --> 00:07:47,360 case you haven't seen it it was just 127 00:07:50,629 --> 00:07:48,560 basically another 128 00:07:51,670 --> 00:07:50,639 release uh he has some background 129 00:07:55,909 --> 00:07:51,680 information on it 130 00:07:58,309 --> 00:07:55,919 and um well as it says right here what 131 00:08:00,390 --> 00:07:58,319 we're generally looking at is 132 00:08:03,270 --> 00:08:00,400 this footage represents an additional 133 00:08:06,469 --> 00:08:03,280 type of visual data collection 134 00:08:08,950 --> 00:08:06,479 corroborat corroborative visual evidence 135 00:08:10,070 --> 00:08:08,960 depicting a ufo event series that 136 00:08:11,990 --> 00:08:10,080 reached a 137 00:08:14,469 --> 00:08:12,000 crescendo with at least one of the 138 00:08:16,550 --> 00:08:14,479 unknown targets entering the water 139 00:08:18,070 --> 00:08:16,560 no wreckage found none of the unknown 140 00:08:21,430 --> 00:08:18,080 craft were recovered 141 00:08:24,550 --> 00:08:21,440 despite a test 142 00:08:27,830 --> 00:08:24,560 task search by by at least 143 00:08:29,670 --> 00:08:27,840 one of our us navy submarines so 144 00:08:31,909 --> 00:08:29,680 anyway let me show this to you real 145 00:09:25,350 --> 00:08:31,919 quick and then we can 146 00:09:31,190 --> 00:09:28,630 all right that's that 147 00:09:32,710 --> 00:09:31,200 so anyway check it out uh show jeremy 148 00:09:34,790 --> 00:09:32,720 some love i'm glad he's 149 00:09:37,110 --> 00:09:34,800 uh posting these videos whoever is 150 00:09:40,150 --> 00:09:37,120 sending it sending them to him 151 00:09:41,350 --> 00:09:40,160 so i guess we have to start somewhere as 152 00:09:43,829 --> 00:09:41,360 i've often said 153 00:09:45,110 --> 00:09:43,839 um most of us like myself and many 154 00:09:47,430 --> 00:09:45,120 others and most of you 155 00:09:48,790 --> 00:09:47,440 probably watching we've been beyond the 156 00:09:51,190 --> 00:09:48,800 these lights in the skies 157 00:09:53,110 --> 00:09:51,200 we just there's way more out there but 158 00:09:54,070 --> 00:09:53,120 again we have to ease the public and 159 00:09:57,910 --> 00:09:54,080 somehow 160 00:10:02,150 --> 00:09:57,920 so anyway let me 161 00:10:09,590 --> 00:10:05,670 let's go to youtube chat 162 00:10:10,310 --> 00:10:09,600 i want to see who's here fab 22 hello 163 00:10:12,790 --> 00:10:10,320 thank you 164 00:10:14,069 --> 00:10:12,800 oh um yeah baby and family are doing 165 00:10:16,230 --> 00:10:14,079 just fine 166 00:10:18,150 --> 00:10:16,240 baby it's just doing what babies do 167 00:10:20,310 --> 00:10:18,160 eating sleeping and pooping so i guess 168 00:10:23,829 --> 00:10:20,320 that's a good thing 169 00:10:27,710 --> 00:10:23,839 uh richard on facebook hi uh renee cruz 170 00:10:30,069 --> 00:10:27,720 on youtube hello um m 171 00:10:31,509 --> 00:10:30,079 bulliochini sorry if i'm if i'm 172 00:10:37,750 --> 00:10:31,519 butchering your name 173 00:10:42,710 --> 00:10:41,110 uh m wrote i think they're easing us in 174 00:10:44,790 --> 00:10:42,720 but also trying to 175 00:10:45,750 --> 00:10:44,800 deflect it doesn't surprise me but i 176 00:10:47,350 --> 00:10:45,760 think they 177 00:10:49,430 --> 00:10:47,360 underestimate the knowledge of the 178 00:10:52,949 --> 00:10:49,440 people i expect more 179 00:10:53,509 --> 00:10:52,959 and it will get to a point cannot be 180 00:10:57,509 --> 00:10:53,519 hidden 181 00:11:01,350 --> 00:10:57,519 to get to a point yeah yeah i mean it's 182 00:11:03,829 --> 00:11:01,360 i don't know i never really thought that 183 00:11:04,470 --> 00:11:03,839 the subject obviously most of us can 184 00:11:07,110 --> 00:11:04,480 prove it 185 00:11:08,949 --> 00:11:07,120 and have shown that it's not necessarily 186 00:11:09,670 --> 00:11:08,959 hidden if you genuinely want to make 187 00:11:11,190 --> 00:11:09,680 contact 188 00:11:13,670 --> 00:11:11,200 and you go through these different 189 00:11:16,069 --> 00:11:13,680 modalities that i've often covered 190 00:11:16,949 --> 00:11:16,079 it's not it's not a secret you get to 191 00:11:18,949 --> 00:11:16,959 kind of 192 00:11:20,389 --> 00:11:18,959 circumvent the government find out all 193 00:11:23,910 --> 00:11:20,399 that you need to find out 194 00:11:26,069 --> 00:11:23,920 and um you can then also quickly realize 195 00:11:29,590 --> 00:11:26,079 how little the government actually knows 196 00:11:31,590 --> 00:11:29,600 so i think for those that still live in 197 00:11:32,069 --> 00:11:31,600 this world where they look at government 198 00:11:34,630 --> 00:11:32,079 as the 199 00:11:36,710 --> 00:11:34,640 authoritative body and then uh kind of 200 00:11:38,790 --> 00:11:36,720 looking at their neighbors it's like hey 201 00:11:40,389 --> 00:11:38,800 do do you do you believe in you first 202 00:11:41,910 --> 00:11:40,399 yeah you saw that show okay yeah me too 203 00:11:42,470 --> 00:11:41,920 and so they're kind of easing the waters 204 00:11:45,990 --> 00:11:42,480 in 205 00:11:47,829 --> 00:11:46,000 they want to be the weirdo but 206 00:11:50,069 --> 00:11:47,839 myself and many others will kind of pass 207 00:11:52,230 --> 00:11:50,079 that and we're just basically 208 00:11:53,670 --> 00:11:52,240 i think it might be another 15 20 years 209 00:11:55,430 --> 00:11:53,680 till it finally 210 00:11:57,190 --> 00:11:55,440 gets to a point where we are right now 211 00:11:59,590 --> 00:11:57,200 but hey we're all 212 00:12:04,710 --> 00:11:59,600 in this ride together so however it goes 213 00:12:11,750 --> 00:12:08,710 hi shea uh reagan regnerson 214 00:12:12,710 --> 00:12:11,760 says uh they look like planes to me yeah 215 00:12:16,150 --> 00:12:12,720 i don't know 216 00:12:17,910 --> 00:12:16,160 uh they have you know it's 217 00:12:19,350 --> 00:12:17,920 when it comes to these things i mean you 218 00:12:21,750 --> 00:12:19,360 just end up guessing you know you're 219 00:12:23,670 --> 00:12:21,760 looking at different lights in the sky 220 00:12:25,990 --> 00:12:23,680 and are they blinking are they not 221 00:12:27,509 --> 00:12:26,000 blinking what are the characteristics 222 00:12:32,870 --> 00:12:27,519 you know it's hard to figure out 223 00:12:41,509 --> 00:12:37,509 so let's see here 224 00:12:46,310 --> 00:12:41,519 all right right now yeah there's only 225 00:12:48,870 --> 00:12:46,320 um fab 22 in in the 226 00:12:49,829 --> 00:12:48,880 in the telegram also if you would like 227 00:12:51,990 --> 00:12:49,839 to chat with me 228 00:12:53,590 --> 00:12:52,000 i want to make it clear there's a little 229 00:12:54,470 --> 00:12:53,600 icon that kind of looks like a raised 230 00:12:56,069 --> 00:12:54,480 hand and it 231 00:12:57,910 --> 00:12:56,079 says something along the lines of ask to 232 00:12:59,829 --> 00:12:57,920 speak so please tap that 233 00:13:01,750 --> 00:12:59,839 and then after that you hit it again to 234 00:13:05,670 --> 00:13:01,760 unmute yourself to speak to me 235 00:13:08,069 --> 00:13:05,680 after i unmute you so um depends on who 236 00:13:09,350 --> 00:13:08,079 simply is logging in to listen or wants 237 00:13:11,110 --> 00:13:09,360 to to speak 238 00:13:12,710 --> 00:13:11,120 um i'll give them time accordingly if 239 00:13:14,310 --> 00:13:12,720 there's only one or two people that just 240 00:13:16,470 --> 00:13:14,320 wants to share their story 241 00:13:17,590 --> 00:13:16,480 then then i'll give them that time 242 00:13:20,230 --> 00:13:17,600 because i appreciate them 243 00:13:21,350 --> 00:13:20,240 logging in to to chat with me if there's 244 00:13:23,190 --> 00:13:21,360 more people 245 00:13:25,110 --> 00:13:23,200 please do and you want to talk to me 246 00:13:26,470 --> 00:13:25,120 please do tap on that raised hand button 247 00:13:28,230 --> 00:13:26,480 so i know there's more 248 00:13:29,990 --> 00:13:28,240 and then i can shorten everyone else's 249 00:13:32,470 --> 00:13:30,000 time so i'll give everyone 250 00:13:33,190 --> 00:13:32,480 you know 10 minutes or five minutes 251 00:13:37,269 --> 00:13:33,200 instead 252 00:13:39,269 --> 00:13:37,279 because if there's no one else there 253 00:13:41,030 --> 00:13:39,279 some some people say okay can we get 254 00:13:42,470 --> 00:13:41,040 another guest like there is no other 255 00:13:43,269 --> 00:13:42,480 guest there is no one else that wants to 256 00:13:45,269 --> 00:13:43,279 speak to me 257 00:13:46,389 --> 00:13:45,279 and you have to keep in mind that right 258 00:13:49,750 --> 00:13:46,399 now on wednesdays 259 00:13:52,310 --> 00:13:49,760 i i it's basically all about you 260 00:13:54,310 --> 00:13:52,320 if you want to log in please do if you 261 00:13:56,310 --> 00:13:54,320 want to talk to me i hope you do 262 00:13:57,670 --> 00:13:56,320 because if you don't talk to me and you 263 00:13:59,670 --> 00:13:57,680 don't share the story 264 00:14:01,750 --> 00:13:59,680 i can maybe cover a little bit what i 265 00:14:01,990 --> 00:14:01,760 just did now today there's a new video 266 00:14:05,189 --> 00:14:02,000 out 267 00:14:08,470 --> 00:14:05,199 than that 268 00:14:10,629 --> 00:14:08,480 um it's just basically wednesdays is 269 00:14:12,790 --> 00:14:10,639 run by you however many stories you can 270 00:14:14,230 --> 00:14:12,800 share you know to tell everyone else 271 00:14:16,790 --> 00:14:14,240 that can then listen in 272 00:14:18,870 --> 00:14:16,800 that's all depends on how many you log 273 00:14:21,509 --> 00:14:18,880 in 274 00:14:24,069 --> 00:14:21,519 so let me see who else i have here yeah 275 00:14:24,079 --> 00:14:28,389 trying to 276 00:14:33,590 --> 00:14:31,590 to figure out regarding some of the uh i 277 00:14:36,710 --> 00:14:33,600 meant to like send a message 278 00:14:39,509 --> 00:14:36,720 or like a little questionnaire earlier 279 00:14:40,389 --> 00:14:39,519 this week to kind of find out how many 280 00:14:43,509 --> 00:14:40,399 people focus 281 00:14:44,310 --> 00:14:43,519 on youtube how many on facebook or 282 00:14:46,069 --> 00:14:44,320 twitch 283 00:14:47,670 --> 00:14:46,079 and i figured i'll just keep it going 284 00:14:50,710 --> 00:14:47,680 like that for a while 285 00:14:53,509 --> 00:14:50,720 maybe maybe give it a year we'll see if 286 00:14:55,030 --> 00:14:53,519 anything changes after that um i think 287 00:14:56,829 --> 00:14:55,040 it's pretty much all dependent on how 288 00:14:58,949 --> 00:14:56,839 much 289 00:14:59,990 --> 00:14:58,959 facebook i guess and all the other 290 00:15:03,030 --> 00:15:00,000 platforms 291 00:15:05,030 --> 00:15:03,040 make it available or whether or not 292 00:15:06,790 --> 00:15:05,040 those type of people that for example 293 00:15:08,550 --> 00:15:06,800 are on facebook they might not be 294 00:15:10,470 --> 00:15:08,560 necessarily into watching videos they 295 00:15:12,790 --> 00:15:10,480 might just want like a quick 296 00:15:15,189 --> 00:15:12,800 uh as they're scrolling through have a 297 00:15:17,110 --> 00:15:15,199 meme or some sort or text or 298 00:15:18,710 --> 00:15:17,120 just a little paragraph about some 299 00:15:21,269 --> 00:15:18,720 information so 300 00:15:22,470 --> 00:15:21,279 anyway i'm just kind of playing with it 301 00:15:25,509 --> 00:15:22,480 trying to figure out which 302 00:15:27,590 --> 00:15:25,519 would work best so 303 00:15:29,030 --> 00:15:27,600 if you if there's one platform you 304 00:15:31,430 --> 00:15:29,040 prefer over another 305 00:15:32,710 --> 00:15:31,440 uh please do tell me in in the comments 306 00:15:34,470 --> 00:15:32,720 uh don't be afraid 307 00:15:36,710 --> 00:15:34,480 it helps at least just getting some 308 00:15:40,310 --> 00:15:36,720 feedback because um 309 00:15:43,749 --> 00:15:40,320 other than when i talk to you 310 00:15:45,829 --> 00:15:43,759 all or if i see a message in chat 311 00:15:47,030 --> 00:15:45,839 that's the only kind of interaction or 312 00:15:52,829 --> 00:15:47,040 feedback i get from 313 00:15:52,839 --> 00:15:59,269 uh stefan king welcome 314 00:16:06,069 --> 00:16:02,470 so yeah it's um uh i wanted to 315 00:16:08,550 --> 00:16:06,079 just quickly cover uh this friday 316 00:16:09,430 --> 00:16:08,560 this friday it's gonna be the show is 317 00:16:11,030 --> 00:16:09,440 gonna be 318 00:16:13,269 --> 00:16:11,040 very different than what i've done 319 00:16:16,629 --> 00:16:13,279 before it's gonna be a very 320 00:16:20,069 --> 00:16:16,639 um psychedelic-centric show 321 00:16:22,230 --> 00:16:20,079 and in the sense that not only 322 00:16:23,990 --> 00:16:22,240 will it be mainly focused on that and 323 00:16:24,949 --> 00:16:24,000 covering these different psychedelics 324 00:16:27,430 --> 00:16:24,959 that are out there 325 00:16:29,030 --> 00:16:27,440 i will actually gonna have a person 326 00:16:32,230 --> 00:16:29,040 sitting across from me 327 00:16:36,069 --> 00:16:32,240 and um then also going to have a 328 00:16:38,150 --> 00:16:36,079 um another um 329 00:16:39,829 --> 00:16:38,160 close friend of mine be on telegram so 330 00:16:40,550 --> 00:16:39,839 it would be a conversation between us 331 00:16:43,189 --> 00:16:40,560 three 332 00:16:44,790 --> 00:16:43,199 it's um my closest friends have kind of 333 00:16:45,670 --> 00:16:44,800 been through this with me from the very 334 00:16:47,430 --> 00:16:45,680 beginning 335 00:16:50,069 --> 00:16:47,440 and all of us have kind of gotten 336 00:16:51,509 --> 00:16:50,079 different different things out of it and 337 00:16:54,790 --> 00:16:51,519 so 338 00:16:56,629 --> 00:16:54,800 much mystery around it 339 00:16:58,150 --> 00:16:56,639 that not a lot of people want to talk 340 00:17:00,230 --> 00:16:58,160 about it um 341 00:17:02,550 --> 00:17:00,240 and because they said they're taboo 342 00:17:05,029 --> 00:17:02,560 still depends on which community you 343 00:17:06,470 --> 00:17:05,039 you're in they're still embarrassed to 344 00:17:10,230 --> 00:17:06,480 talk about that 345 00:17:12,789 --> 00:17:10,240 um sometimes they even lessen 346 00:17:14,470 --> 00:17:12,799 that experience or put it kind of lower 347 00:17:17,189 --> 00:17:14,480 on the tier of experiences 348 00:17:17,590 --> 00:17:17,199 than any other experience that's out 349 00:17:20,069 --> 00:17:17,600 there 350 00:17:21,510 --> 00:17:20,079 so anyway so having this conversation 351 00:17:23,829 --> 00:17:21,520 and i hope we go 352 00:17:24,630 --> 00:17:23,839 into as much depth about it as possible 353 00:17:27,669 --> 00:17:24,640 so that 354 00:17:28,470 --> 00:17:27,679 um it gives you an idea what actually 355 00:17:30,150 --> 00:17:28,480 happens 356 00:17:32,070 --> 00:17:30,160 for those of you who are still kind of 357 00:17:33,350 --> 00:17:32,080 wondering about it i'm not necessarily 358 00:17:35,190 --> 00:17:33,360 saying you should go out and do some 359 00:17:37,190 --> 00:17:35,200 psychedelics i'm just generally 360 00:17:39,270 --> 00:17:37,200 wanting to give you a picture for some 361 00:17:41,350 --> 00:17:39,280 of you that just want to sit back and 362 00:17:42,870 --> 00:17:41,360 listen and listen to others talk about 363 00:17:45,750 --> 00:17:42,880 it and describe the difference 364 00:17:47,590 --> 00:17:45,760 different experiences so i'm hoping you 365 00:17:49,750 --> 00:17:47,600 you get as much out of it as possible 366 00:17:51,110 --> 00:17:49,760 so it'll be this friday then at seven 367 00:17:53,430 --> 00:17:51,120 and so i'm going to have 368 00:17:54,470 --> 00:17:53,440 a guest here in person and on telegram 369 00:17:57,590 --> 00:17:54,480 at the same time 370 00:17:59,590 --> 00:17:57,600 and then of course i will have it open 371 00:18:01,909 --> 00:17:59,600 for you guys to ask questions over chat 372 00:18:05,190 --> 00:18:01,919 and to also log in on the 373 00:18:07,510 --> 00:18:05,200 on telegram and then speak to uh to us 374 00:18:09,510 --> 00:18:07,520 to ask whatever questions you might want 375 00:18:11,669 --> 00:18:09,520 to ask or maybe 376 00:18:12,950 --> 00:18:11,679 share a short story we won't have much 377 00:18:15,110 --> 00:18:12,960 time to go into 378 00:18:17,350 --> 00:18:15,120 a great detail but if you can keep it 379 00:18:18,630 --> 00:18:17,360 short i'd i'd appreciate it 380 00:18:24,310 --> 00:18:18,640 so anyway that's something to look 381 00:18:24,320 --> 00:18:29,350 um hi crypto how are you 382 00:18:34,789 --> 00:18:32,549 shea is said if corbell is getting this 383 00:18:35,909 --> 00:18:34,799 material of the navy could it possibly 384 00:18:39,190 --> 00:18:35,919 be that 385 00:18:43,669 --> 00:18:39,200 they're giving corbell videos that look 386 00:18:46,630 --> 00:18:43,679 uh suspect to distract ufology 387 00:18:49,270 --> 00:18:46,640 well it's a good point well if you're 388 00:18:51,909 --> 00:18:49,280 new to ufology i don't know 389 00:18:52,630 --> 00:18:51,919 um it could confuse you because you when 390 00:18:55,669 --> 00:18:52,640 you knew 391 00:18:57,510 --> 00:18:55,679 and i remember how how um 392 00:18:59,270 --> 00:18:57,520 you know when i was trying to find some 393 00:19:00,230 --> 00:18:59,280 okay like i have had these experiences 394 00:19:01,590 --> 00:19:00,240 is there anything that 395 00:19:03,029 --> 00:19:01,600 that can corroborate what i've 396 00:19:03,830 --> 00:19:03,039 experienced like what in the world is 397 00:19:05,990 --> 00:19:03,840 going on 398 00:19:07,270 --> 00:19:06,000 and so you're kind of like a little cat 399 00:19:09,669 --> 00:19:07,280 running after 400 00:19:11,350 --> 00:19:09,679 you know after this laser pointer 401 00:19:12,789 --> 00:19:11,360 because you know here's this ufo 402 00:19:14,549 --> 00:19:12,799 footage there's this picture there's 403 00:19:15,110 --> 00:19:14,559 this book to go back and forth here and 404 00:19:18,470 --> 00:19:15,120 there 405 00:19:20,870 --> 00:19:18,480 and so for those who haven't who are 406 00:19:23,270 --> 00:19:20,880 just now getting into it have this great 407 00:19:24,150 --> 00:19:23,280 interest i hope they don't get 408 00:19:26,549 --> 00:19:24,160 discouraged 409 00:19:27,990 --> 00:19:26,559 because that's all that they're ever 410 00:19:29,909 --> 00:19:28,000 gonna really 411 00:19:31,909 --> 00:19:29,919 you know unless something truly happens 412 00:19:34,870 --> 00:19:31,919 a shift big enough happens 413 00:19:35,270 --> 00:19:34,880 to where you know uh government you know 414 00:19:38,310 --> 00:19:35,280 just 415 00:19:39,750 --> 00:19:38,320 takes takes it to the next level um 416 00:19:41,270 --> 00:19:39,760 because i don't know if you quite 417 00:19:42,870 --> 00:19:41,280 realize it maybe i don't know if i've 418 00:19:44,150 --> 00:19:42,880 really spelled it out to you guys 419 00:19:46,230 --> 00:19:44,160 at the end of the day the government 420 00:19:48,070 --> 00:19:46,240 admitted ufos exist 421 00:19:49,669 --> 00:19:48,080 you know during this pandemic you know i 422 00:19:52,230 --> 00:19:49,679 don't know if you if if 423 00:19:53,350 --> 00:19:52,240 i maybe need to be as blatant about it 424 00:19:55,190 --> 00:19:53,360 to tell you 425 00:19:56,870 --> 00:19:55,200 they've come out they admitted it they 426 00:19:59,110 --> 00:19:56,880 haven't given you all the information 427 00:20:00,230 --> 00:19:59,120 so i believe it's just the beginning of 428 00:20:03,110 --> 00:20:00,240 it because 429 00:20:04,149 --> 00:20:03,120 everyone needs to kind of take it easy 430 00:20:06,070 --> 00:20:04,159 you know because 431 00:20:08,149 --> 00:20:06,080 it's hard to switch from hey it's sci-fi 432 00:20:11,990 --> 00:20:08,159 and movies and great entertainment to 433 00:20:13,830 --> 00:20:12,000 uh oh [\h__\h] they're real and so um 434 00:20:15,270 --> 00:20:13,840 it's just a matter of time how far 435 00:20:18,310 --> 00:20:15,280 they'll go out there 436 00:20:21,350 --> 00:20:18,320 and so um you know for those 437 00:20:23,669 --> 00:20:21,360 again unless something 438 00:20:24,789 --> 00:20:23,679 you know changes drastically like i've 439 00:20:27,830 --> 00:20:24,799 said before 440 00:20:29,990 --> 00:20:27,840 from the 2020s and uh 441 00:20:31,350 --> 00:20:30,000 you know pretty much for 2025 i have a 442 00:20:33,110 --> 00:20:31,360 feeling this is what we're going to have 443 00:20:36,149 --> 00:20:33,120 to deal with when it comes to government 444 00:20:38,230 --> 00:20:36,159 it's just be another report you know 445 00:20:39,590 --> 00:20:38,240 more money was invested and we were able 446 00:20:41,909 --> 00:20:39,600 to find out just a little 447 00:20:43,750 --> 00:20:41,919 more but we're not quite there yet you 448 00:20:45,110 --> 00:20:43,760 know and we were able to record this 449 00:20:47,029 --> 00:20:45,120 footage with whatever 450 00:20:48,870 --> 00:20:47,039 cameras because before in this report 451 00:20:51,430 --> 00:20:48,880 they were kind of saying that the 452 00:20:52,789 --> 00:20:51,440 cameras and this uh the sensors that 453 00:20:54,710 --> 00:20:52,799 they were using whether 454 00:20:56,149 --> 00:20:54,720 it's infrared or radar and all that 455 00:20:58,870 --> 00:20:56,159 wasn't necessarily 456 00:21:01,029 --> 00:20:58,880 specifically designed for uaps so 457 00:21:02,149 --> 00:21:01,039 therefore they were kind of stating that 458 00:21:04,630 --> 00:21:02,159 it's 459 00:21:05,350 --> 00:21:04,640 not i guess to paraphrase not the right 460 00:21:08,549 --> 00:21:05,360 equipment 461 00:21:11,270 --> 00:21:08,559 to make any analysis off of that so 462 00:21:12,870 --> 00:21:11,280 maybe in the future they might come up 463 00:21:14,149 --> 00:21:12,880 with something new that they're going to 464 00:21:16,230 --> 00:21:14,159 use to 465 00:21:17,669 --> 00:21:16,240 track these things better to analyze 466 00:21:20,230 --> 00:21:17,679 better so that they can 467 00:21:20,950 --> 00:21:20,240 kind of disseminate it and give more 468 00:21:24,789 --> 00:21:20,960 information 469 00:21:28,070 --> 00:21:24,799 in more of a you know trickle drop down 470 00:21:30,149 --> 00:21:28,080 fashion you know just enough big enough 471 00:21:34,230 --> 00:21:30,159 bites so that the average joe can chew 472 00:21:34,240 --> 00:21:38,230 hello daniel norman hello 473 00:21:44,549 --> 00:21:41,110 it says i see three choices alien tech 474 00:21:47,110 --> 00:21:44,559 foreign power tech or the us 475 00:21:47,990 --> 00:21:47,120 messing with us all yeah could be but 476 00:21:51,669 --> 00:21:48,000 this is 477 00:21:54,230 --> 00:21:51,679 a soft disclosure right yeah i believe 478 00:21:55,110 --> 00:21:54,240 you know it's they've admitted it's 479 00:21:56,950 --> 00:21:55,120 they're there 480 00:21:59,029 --> 00:21:56,960 they're just going to play this game of 481 00:22:06,310 --> 00:21:59,039 how much are we gonna 482 00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:11,430 okay 483 00:22:15,669 --> 00:22:13,669 all right i'm still waiting for i don't 484 00:22:16,630 --> 00:22:15,679 know if fab 22 wants to talk to me i 485 00:22:22,710 --> 00:22:16,640 only have 486 00:22:26,230 --> 00:22:24,070 logged in so he might just want to 487 00:22:28,070 --> 00:22:26,240 listen in which is perfectly all right 488 00:22:30,230 --> 00:22:28,080 unless he raises his hand then i know he 489 00:22:33,830 --> 00:22:30,240 wants to talk to me 490 00:22:38,630 --> 00:22:36,230 lottie baker says currently reading the 491 00:22:43,029 --> 00:22:38,640 psychic sasquatch and truly believe the 492 00:22:46,470 --> 00:22:43,039 magic of other worldly experiences 493 00:22:50,310 --> 00:22:46,480 okay well you know 494 00:22:55,510 --> 00:22:50,320 i've said this also before regarding 495 00:22:58,470 --> 00:22:55,520 uh regarding these different um 496 00:22:59,029 --> 00:22:58,480 methods of acquiring information you 497 00:23:02,149 --> 00:22:59,039 have to 498 00:23:04,070 --> 00:23:02,159 at one point start going out there on 499 00:23:04,789 --> 00:23:04,080 your own and trying to figure out what 500 00:23:07,830 --> 00:23:04,799 can you 501 00:23:09,830 --> 00:23:07,840 immediately do to make contact 502 00:23:12,149 --> 00:23:09,840 you've heard examples say regarding 503 00:23:14,630 --> 00:23:12,159 bigfoot what would be a 504 00:23:15,990 --> 00:23:14,640 best approach to what to do what did 505 00:23:19,990 --> 00:23:16,000 kawani what did 506 00:23:22,870 --> 00:23:20,000 um i'm blanking out her name 507 00:23:24,470 --> 00:23:22,880 um the other gal i had on i can't 508 00:23:27,909 --> 00:23:24,480 believe i forgot her name now 509 00:23:28,230 --> 00:23:27,919 uh casey anyway i'm sure he'll come to 510 00:23:30,630 --> 00:23:28,240 me 511 00:23:32,070 --> 00:23:30,640 but anyway um they've all you know often 512 00:23:36,549 --> 00:23:32,080 said 513 00:23:37,029 --> 00:23:36,559 go in no weapons no cameras and simply 514 00:23:39,830 --> 00:23:37,039 with an 515 00:23:40,710 --> 00:23:39,840 open open heart open mind to want to 516 00:23:43,350 --> 00:23:40,720 make contact 517 00:23:44,070 --> 00:23:43,360 and just whatever happens happens it 518 00:23:48,549 --> 00:23:44,080 might 519 00:23:50,390 --> 00:23:48,559 three four weeks maybe years you never 520 00:23:52,070 --> 00:23:50,400 know the point here is that 521 00:23:54,149 --> 00:23:52,080 you know you have to start doing 522 00:23:56,390 --> 00:23:54,159 something otherwise you always just be 523 00:23:57,029 --> 00:23:56,400 reading the next book watching the next 524 00:23:58,950 --> 00:23:57,039 video 525 00:24:00,149 --> 00:23:58,960 logging into your for hub which i love 526 00:24:01,430 --> 00:24:00,159 that you're doing there but you'll be 527 00:24:03,909 --> 00:24:01,440 like okay what's next 528 00:24:05,510 --> 00:24:03,919 okay what what else what else is new oh 529 00:24:07,430 --> 00:24:05,520 wait devin talking about this three 530 00:24:07,990 --> 00:24:07,440 weeks ago this is not new information 531 00:24:09,990 --> 00:24:08,000 well 532 00:24:11,990 --> 00:24:10,000 you know at the end of the day i'm going 533 00:24:14,549 --> 00:24:12,000 to be coming full circle because 534 00:24:16,070 --> 00:24:14,559 if you don't take up action on your own 535 00:24:17,909 --> 00:24:16,080 to go out on your own 536 00:24:19,269 --> 00:24:17,919 to overcome certain fears to want to 537 00:24:21,430 --> 00:24:19,279 learn and know more and 538 00:24:23,590 --> 00:24:21,440 actually get to the next level of extra 539 00:24:25,990 --> 00:24:23,600 experience instead of just learning 540 00:24:27,990 --> 00:24:26,000 there isn't much that anybody can tell 541 00:24:28,390 --> 00:24:28,000 you because all you'll ever hear them is 542 00:24:31,430 --> 00:24:28,400 just 543 00:24:33,430 --> 00:24:31,440 talk and tell you and try to 544 00:24:35,510 --> 00:24:33,440 try to redecorate the cake for you in a 545 00:24:36,390 --> 00:24:35,520 different way and say how does the cake 546 00:24:38,470 --> 00:24:36,400 taste this way 547 00:24:39,430 --> 00:24:38,480 nope okay i'll put different icing on it 548 00:24:41,350 --> 00:24:39,440 how about that 549 00:24:44,149 --> 00:24:41,360 until you finally go okay i'm going to 550 00:24:45,750 --> 00:24:44,159 try this you know and 551 00:24:47,750 --> 00:24:45,760 there's another analogy for you it's 552 00:24:49,990 --> 00:24:47,760 kind of like that it's like you have to 553 00:24:51,269 --> 00:24:50,000 take the steps on your own to to go and 554 00:24:54,870 --> 00:24:51,279 do do this 555 00:24:58,310 --> 00:24:54,880 um experimental uh and um 556 00:25:02,310 --> 00:24:58,320 uh experian experience based 557 00:25:06,710 --> 00:25:04,549 dudley hello what's up oh yeah and 558 00:25:09,510 --> 00:25:06,720 dudley i know you called in last week 559 00:25:10,630 --> 00:25:09,520 and um i didn't have the time then 560 00:25:12,149 --> 00:25:10,640 because we had a guest 561 00:25:14,230 --> 00:25:12,159 i'm sorry we couldn't spend much time 562 00:25:17,029 --> 00:25:14,240 but i was telling you then that 563 00:25:17,990 --> 00:25:17,039 today would be great so if you do log in 564 00:25:19,669 --> 00:25:18,000 and um 565 00:25:21,190 --> 00:25:19,679 have some time to talk to me please 566 00:25:22,470 --> 00:25:21,200 don't hesitate because this will be a 567 00:25:23,590 --> 00:25:22,480 time for you to share your story it 568 00:25:24,870 --> 00:25:23,600 sounded like you had something 569 00:25:26,310 --> 00:25:24,880 interesting 570 00:25:30,390 --> 00:25:26,320 happen to you and so i'd love to hear 571 00:25:34,630 --> 00:25:33,190 she says the government the government 572 00:25:38,149 --> 00:25:34,640 say a lot of things 573 00:25:41,669 --> 00:25:38,159 then roll back on what they've said 574 00:25:41,990 --> 00:25:41,679 well you know it's what's oddly enough 575 00:25:44,149 --> 00:25:42,000 about 576 00:25:46,149 --> 00:25:44,159 this it's like they haven't they haven't 577 00:25:48,310 --> 00:25:46,159 done that you know any time 578 00:25:49,510 --> 00:25:48,320 uh new footage came out they were pretty 579 00:25:52,630 --> 00:25:49,520 quickly about 580 00:25:54,789 --> 00:25:52,640 um to confirm not to confirm what that 581 00:25:58,230 --> 00:25:54,799 what was captured but to confirm 582 00:25:59,990 --> 00:25:58,240 yes this was recorded on the 2019 on 583 00:26:03,909 --> 00:26:00,000 this ship during this time 584 00:26:05,590 --> 00:26:03,919 by this airmen or by this crew personnel 585 00:26:07,669 --> 00:26:05,600 and whatnot and they've done that a 586 00:26:08,149 --> 00:26:07,679 couple times if my memory serves me 587 00:26:09,669 --> 00:26:08,159 right 588 00:26:11,990 --> 00:26:09,679 so they're not rolling it back but 589 00:26:14,310 --> 00:26:12,000 they're not touching the ufo part yet 590 00:26:15,669 --> 00:26:14,320 they just you know whatever comes out 591 00:26:18,149 --> 00:26:15,679 yes we can confirm 592 00:26:18,710 --> 00:26:18,159 this was recorded you know and because 593 00:26:22,070 --> 00:26:18,720 before 594 00:26:24,470 --> 00:26:22,080 i could see it i mean uh especially 595 00:26:25,909 --> 00:26:24,480 during project blue book and all these 596 00:26:27,669 --> 00:26:25,919 other different programs they just 597 00:26:29,750 --> 00:26:27,679 denial denial denial 598 00:26:31,190 --> 00:26:29,760 you know find something interesting roll 599 00:26:34,070 --> 00:26:31,200 it back you know 600 00:26:35,590 --> 00:26:34,080 oh it is ufo nope sorry just swamp gas 601 00:26:38,470 --> 00:26:35,600 you know oh this is ufo 602 00:26:39,029 --> 00:26:38,480 nope sorry just you know um hot air 603 00:26:41,750 --> 00:26:39,039 balloon 604 00:26:42,630 --> 00:26:41,760 whatever it is so but this time not so 605 00:26:45,350 --> 00:26:42,640 much i think 606 00:26:45,990 --> 00:26:45,360 um i think we we are in the cusp at the 607 00:26:49,269 --> 00:26:46,000 beginning 608 00:26:51,510 --> 00:26:49,279 of what could be then the eventual 609 00:26:53,909 --> 00:26:51,520 uh disclosure if we don't have it a lot 610 00:26:56,149 --> 00:26:53,919 sooner because 611 00:26:58,390 --> 00:26:56,159 what's so odd about this is that a lot 612 00:27:01,029 --> 00:26:58,400 of the contactees 613 00:27:02,149 --> 00:27:01,039 we've always been uh kind of like 614 00:27:04,549 --> 00:27:02,159 informed 615 00:27:06,310 --> 00:27:04,559 over time you know even though there 616 00:27:08,070 --> 00:27:06,320 might be years to go 617 00:27:09,909 --> 00:27:08,080 you know to go without an experience and 618 00:27:12,470 --> 00:27:09,919 then there'll be like a download 619 00:27:14,390 --> 00:27:12,480 about okay something shifting something 620 00:27:16,310 --> 00:27:14,400 is happening something is changing 621 00:27:17,510 --> 00:27:16,320 you know and so what's interesting about 622 00:27:20,870 --> 00:27:17,520 that is that 623 00:27:21,590 --> 00:27:20,880 um i wouldn't be surprised if a lot of 624 00:27:23,510 --> 00:27:21,600 us 625 00:27:25,350 --> 00:27:23,520 wouldn't get to that point to where we 626 00:27:27,590 --> 00:27:25,360 can officially kind of 627 00:27:28,950 --> 00:27:27,600 oh wait there's something new coming up 628 00:27:30,389 --> 00:27:28,960 and so 629 00:27:32,230 --> 00:27:30,399 i don't know they'll necessarily 630 00:27:32,950 --> 00:27:32,240 correlate with whatever the government 631 00:27:35,350 --> 00:27:32,960 is doing 632 00:27:36,630 --> 00:27:35,360 but it is an odd experience you know and 633 00:27:38,870 --> 00:27:36,640 it's i'm glad that sometimes there's 634 00:27:42,470 --> 00:27:38,880 these different movies that can help 635 00:27:45,510 --> 00:27:42,480 kind of break down the mystique of ufos 636 00:27:47,909 --> 00:27:45,520 for example like uh look at arrival the 637 00:27:48,870 --> 00:27:47,919 the recent one it came out a few years 638 00:27:50,870 --> 00:27:48,880 back 639 00:27:52,389 --> 00:27:50,880 you had these huge ships you had all 640 00:27:54,389 --> 00:27:52,399 this you know all these scientists all 641 00:27:56,310 --> 00:27:54,399 their stuff that they had to measure 642 00:27:57,830 --> 00:27:56,320 all the things that they needed to find 643 00:28:00,789 --> 00:27:57,840 out and 644 00:28:01,990 --> 00:28:00,799 all the sensors and you know just using 645 00:28:03,669 --> 00:28:02,000 science which nothing 646 00:28:05,590 --> 00:28:03,679 wrong with that but at the end of the 647 00:28:08,310 --> 00:28:05,600 day when you watched a movie with 648 00:28:10,230 --> 00:28:08,320 all the cameras all the knowledge all 649 00:28:13,110 --> 00:28:10,240 the things that they were trying to 650 00:28:14,149 --> 00:28:13,120 um basically kind of try to understand 651 00:28:17,190 --> 00:28:14,159 this language 652 00:28:19,190 --> 00:28:17,200 it was they then understood by 653 00:28:21,269 --> 00:28:19,200 individual experiences that 654 00:28:22,230 --> 00:28:21,279 they were communicating through them 655 00:28:24,710 --> 00:28:22,240 through dreams 656 00:28:25,750 --> 00:28:24,720 and then throughout time you know so 657 00:28:28,310 --> 00:28:25,760 that then 658 00:28:29,110 --> 00:28:28,320 they were basically uh starting to 659 00:28:31,510 --> 00:28:29,120 realize that 660 00:28:32,950 --> 00:28:31,520 there's not much science can do at that 661 00:28:34,630 --> 00:28:32,960 point and that's how a lot of us feel 662 00:28:36,549 --> 00:28:34,640 like not that we hate science 663 00:28:37,750 --> 00:28:36,559 you know god know i mean look around if 664 00:28:40,470 --> 00:28:37,760 it wasn't for science 665 00:28:41,350 --> 00:28:40,480 the monitors this the mic everything i 666 00:28:42,789 --> 00:28:41,360 have around me 667 00:28:44,149 --> 00:28:42,799 you know wouldn't have happened i'm glad 668 00:28:45,990 --> 00:28:44,159 for those people that have followed 669 00:28:46,950 --> 00:28:46,000 their passions and created such awesome 670 00:28:49,669 --> 00:28:46,960 toys for us 671 00:28:50,149 --> 00:28:49,679 but you know the sometimes certain 672 00:28:52,870 --> 00:28:50,159 things 673 00:28:56,950 --> 00:28:52,880 just have to go beyond that and it's 674 00:28:59,190 --> 00:28:56,960 just unfortunate we can't find a spot 675 00:29:00,070 --> 00:28:59,200 to tour science can sit down and then 676 00:29:01,830 --> 00:29:00,080 listen to some 677 00:29:03,190 --> 00:29:01,840 to some people and say okay we've 678 00:29:04,950 --> 00:29:03,200 experienced this we don't have the 679 00:29:05,990 --> 00:29:04,960 scientific background but can we break 680 00:29:08,310 --> 00:29:06,000 this down to you 681 00:29:09,269 --> 00:29:08,320 to where maybe we can find a medium 682 00:29:11,510 --> 00:29:09,279 maybe you might 683 00:29:12,389 --> 00:29:11,520 be able to to see what we're talking 684 00:29:14,149 --> 00:29:12,399 about and then 685 00:29:16,310 --> 00:29:14,159 we'll work on this together but it's 686 00:29:18,470 --> 00:29:16,320 just been because of funding 687 00:29:19,830 --> 00:29:18,480 and different class groups everything 688 00:29:22,149 --> 00:29:19,840 has just been divided 689 00:29:23,909 --> 00:29:22,159 if you're hardcore scientist and you 690 00:29:25,350 --> 00:29:23,919 want funding you better not talk about 691 00:29:26,549 --> 00:29:25,360 crazy stuff you know and if you're 692 00:29:28,950 --> 00:29:26,559 already crazy what 693 00:29:29,590 --> 00:29:28,960 good luck being taken seriously so it's 694 00:29:32,230 --> 00:29:29,600 just 695 00:29:33,269 --> 00:29:32,240 you know you always it's one side or the 696 00:29:43,029 --> 00:29:33,279 other is always put 697 00:29:46,549 --> 00:29:45,909 okay so here i'm just uh checking my 698 00:29:49,830 --> 00:29:46,559 chat 699 00:29:52,070 --> 00:29:49,840 and looking at 700 00:29:53,190 --> 00:29:52,080 so yeah if you if there's if you'd like 701 00:29:55,269 --> 00:29:53,200 to talk to me 702 00:29:56,310 --> 00:29:55,279 please don't hesitate to log in to 703 00:29:57,990 --> 00:29:56,320 telegram 704 00:29:59,750 --> 00:29:58,000 download it either on your phone or 705 00:30:01,430 --> 00:29:59,760 computer 706 00:30:02,870 --> 00:30:01,440 join the group you can add a search or 707 00:30:04,549 --> 00:30:02,880 click on the link below 708 00:30:06,789 --> 00:30:04,559 where it says telegram it'll take you to 709 00:30:07,669 --> 00:30:06,799 a group directly the voice chat is going 710 00:30:10,870 --> 00:30:07,679 on right now 711 00:30:14,070 --> 00:30:10,880 so you should be able to to 712 00:30:16,549 --> 00:30:14,080 chat with me directly 713 00:30:17,350 --> 00:30:16,559 and i'm also just checking my other 714 00:30:20,149 --> 00:30:17,360 device 715 00:30:21,190 --> 00:30:20,159 uh last show for some reason after about 716 00:30:23,510 --> 00:30:21,200 hour and a half 717 00:30:25,669 --> 00:30:23,520 my voice was like not sinking quite 718 00:30:26,630 --> 00:30:25,679 right so i spent a few days trying to 719 00:30:28,310 --> 00:30:26,640 figure that out 720 00:30:29,750 --> 00:30:28,320 because i would like to put out the 721 00:30:32,789 --> 00:30:29,760 clean you know uh 722 00:30:34,710 --> 00:30:32,799 clean uh a good stream for most of you 723 00:30:36,950 --> 00:30:34,720 out there so that you don't have to 724 00:30:46,789 --> 00:30:36,960 deal with this delay and off sync stuff 725 00:30:53,269 --> 00:30:50,230 so she says um 726 00:30:56,750 --> 00:30:53,279 trump formerly regiments 727 00:30:58,149 --> 00:30:56,760 the u.s space force which must mean the 728 00:31:01,190 --> 00:30:58,159 ussf 729 00:31:04,789 --> 00:31:01,200 must have a spaceship to be 730 00:31:05,750 --> 00:31:04,799 to be of force in space a navy with no 731 00:31:08,389 --> 00:31:05,760 worship is 732 00:31:08,950 --> 00:31:08,399 not a navy you know that could very well 733 00:31:12,389 --> 00:31:08,960 be 734 00:31:17,509 --> 00:31:15,430 many times like the general talk has 735 00:31:18,389 --> 00:31:17,519 always been that the military is about 736 00:31:20,630 --> 00:31:18,399 50 737 00:31:23,909 --> 00:31:20,640 years ahead of whatever the latest 738 00:31:25,990 --> 00:31:23,919 greatest newest technology is 739 00:31:27,190 --> 00:31:26,000 were some people out there that were 740 00:31:29,909 --> 00:31:27,200 more privileged to be 741 00:31:31,750 --> 00:31:29,919 at the right place and time they found 742 00:31:33,590 --> 00:31:31,760 out it's way more than that 743 00:31:35,750 --> 00:31:33,600 i mean at times we're talking about 744 00:31:39,029 --> 00:31:35,760 hundreds of years if not more 745 00:31:39,430 --> 00:31:39,039 ahead of what's going on now so i don't 746 00:31:41,509 --> 00:31:39,440 know 747 00:31:42,549 --> 00:31:41,519 if this also would then kind of play 748 00:31:45,590 --> 00:31:42,559 along with hey 749 00:31:47,269 --> 00:31:45,600 let's start this space force and 750 00:31:49,509 --> 00:31:47,279 they'll start out with some simple 751 00:31:51,029 --> 00:31:49,519 models that won't get anywhere and then 752 00:31:52,710 --> 00:31:51,039 they'll have a breakthrough and the next 753 00:31:55,830 --> 00:31:52,720 thing you know you have this 754 00:31:58,149 --> 00:31:55,840 you know a jump in technology 755 00:32:00,389 --> 00:31:58,159 you know it's kind of like um if you 756 00:32:02,710 --> 00:32:00,399 look at what elon musk did it's 757 00:32:04,549 --> 00:32:02,720 it's not it wasn't necessarily a mystery 758 00:32:06,710 --> 00:32:04,559 of how electric cars work 759 00:32:07,590 --> 00:32:06,720 but it seemed like you almost hit the 760 00:32:09,909 --> 00:32:07,600 market with 761 00:32:11,590 --> 00:32:09,919 not just an electric car but it had an 762 00:32:14,549 --> 00:32:11,600 awesome range to begin with 763 00:32:15,110 --> 00:32:14,559 had a very simple yet beta and always 764 00:32:18,870 --> 00:32:15,120 evolving 765 00:32:21,750 --> 00:32:18,880 version of of um autonomous driving 766 00:32:22,389 --> 00:32:21,760 and then all these cool little things 767 00:32:26,549 --> 00:32:22,399 that 768 00:32:27,590 --> 00:32:26,559 like just going from zero to 16 like 769 00:32:29,669 --> 00:32:27,600 three seconds 770 00:32:31,350 --> 00:32:29,679 you know and not only then he started 771 00:32:33,110 --> 00:32:31,360 working on infrastructure 772 00:32:34,710 --> 00:32:33,120 so to where there's these different 773 00:32:37,029 --> 00:32:34,720 tesla charging stations 774 00:32:37,830 --> 00:32:37,039 so anyway um he kind of it's always 775 00:32:40,149 --> 00:32:37,840 almost like just 776 00:32:41,430 --> 00:32:40,159 rolled out and ready to go to where now 777 00:32:44,789 --> 00:32:41,440 it can be built on 778 00:32:46,950 --> 00:32:44,799 and so i'm wondering if um the the 779 00:32:47,990 --> 00:32:46,960 u.s government would kind of do a 780 00:32:51,029 --> 00:32:48,000 similar thing 781 00:32:52,950 --> 00:32:51,039 now to 782 00:32:55,110 --> 00:32:52,960 hey we have a spaceship and yeah we can 783 00:32:56,950 --> 00:32:55,120 go to mars within 784 00:32:58,549 --> 00:32:56,960 30 minutes or something like that would 785 00:33:00,950 --> 00:32:58,559 be like what 786 00:33:02,549 --> 00:33:00,960 you know what what how did this happen 787 00:33:04,070 --> 00:33:02,559 not that we already don't know that 788 00:33:05,029 --> 00:33:04,080 they're always doing something in secret 789 00:33:07,669 --> 00:33:05,039 but 790 00:33:08,389 --> 00:33:07,679 i think you know people as always just 791 00:33:15,590 --> 00:33:08,399 need small 792 00:33:23,110 --> 00:33:20,389 okay let me switch over to to fab 22 793 00:33:25,509 --> 00:33:23,120 here fab you're you are unmuted so i 794 00:33:29,270 --> 00:33:25,519 meet yourself on your end and 795 00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:36,830 [Music] 796 00:33:40,389 --> 00:33:38,230 hello 797 00:33:47,430 --> 00:33:40,399 you sound very distant like you're in 798 00:33:56,870 --> 00:33:49,669 no now you're it's very very uh 799 00:34:00,549 --> 00:33:58,950 ah that's too bad well fab i'm sorry i 800 00:34:02,149 --> 00:34:00,559 don't have a good connection with you 801 00:34:05,029 --> 00:34:02,159 i don't know if you maybe might need to 802 00:34:07,029 --> 00:34:05,039 move to a different spot in the house or 803 00:34:08,470 --> 00:34:07,039 maybe a different correction i really 804 00:34:10,069 --> 00:34:08,480 would love to talk to you but the 805 00:34:14,550 --> 00:34:10,079 connection is not good enough 806 00:34:22,149 --> 00:34:15,990 okay let's see what else going on in 807 00:34:28,550 --> 00:34:25,589 type 56s-1 808 00:34:30,869 --> 00:34:28,560 um hello and also says myself personally 809 00:34:33,349 --> 00:34:30,879 would love to see all the 4k images and 810 00:34:35,109 --> 00:34:33,359 video archived somewhere in the cellar 811 00:34:36,550 --> 00:34:35,119 that would be pretty cool i mean it 812 00:34:38,790 --> 00:34:36,560 would also 813 00:34:40,470 --> 00:34:38,800 you know i i wonder there's always been 814 00:34:42,710 --> 00:34:40,480 talk about the government kind of 815 00:34:43,589 --> 00:34:42,720 um when i say government i'm talking 816 00:34:46,950 --> 00:34:43,599 about 817 00:34:48,869 --> 00:34:46,960 these hidden groups or i'm going to have 818 00:34:51,389 --> 00:34:48,879 issues with this word complement 819 00:34:53,190 --> 00:34:51,399 complement i can't even pronounce it 820 00:34:55,030 --> 00:34:53,200 complementalized 821 00:34:57,270 --> 00:34:55,040 never mind i can't speak english today 822 00:34:59,829 --> 00:34:57,280 basically these sectioned off groups 823 00:35:00,950 --> 00:34:59,839 that kind of do things hidden and 824 00:35:02,710 --> 00:35:00,960 unbeknownst to 825 00:35:05,030 --> 00:35:02,720 the other i guess more official 826 00:35:06,390 --> 00:35:05,040 government the faces we always see 827 00:35:08,230 --> 00:35:06,400 and so i'm wondering if there's some 828 00:35:09,349 --> 00:35:08,240 kind of worry about any kind of 829 00:35:12,150 --> 00:35:09,359 repercussions 830 00:35:13,030 --> 00:35:12,160 to say how long has this been going on 831 00:35:15,910 --> 00:35:13,040 but 832 00:35:16,390 --> 00:35:15,920 i don't know how much that would really 833 00:35:20,069 --> 00:35:16,400 happen 834 00:35:22,950 --> 00:35:20,079 as well because look at look at snowden 835 00:35:24,390 --> 00:35:22,960 look at assange look at manning what 836 00:35:26,230 --> 00:35:24,400 they've released about 837 00:35:28,550 --> 00:35:26,240 what the government does what the nsa 838 00:35:29,270 --> 00:35:28,560 does with the collection programs of 839 00:35:32,550 --> 00:35:29,280 emails 840 00:35:34,550 --> 00:35:32,560 phone phone conversations recordings uh 841 00:35:35,829 --> 00:35:34,560 of you know pretty much every citizen 842 00:35:38,630 --> 00:35:35,839 united states if not 843 00:35:40,230 --> 00:35:38,640 everyone else in the world and you know 844 00:35:41,349 --> 00:35:40,240 this that has been the conspiracy 845 00:35:43,349 --> 00:35:41,359 theories forever 846 00:35:45,430 --> 00:35:43,359 and then when it finally came out and it 847 00:35:47,349 --> 00:35:45,440 was official nothing 848 00:35:48,870 --> 00:35:47,359 everyone was just like ah shoot that 849 00:35:50,710 --> 00:35:48,880 means we're gonna have to be mad about 850 00:35:51,750 --> 00:35:50,720 this and do something about it so how 851 00:35:53,270 --> 00:35:51,760 about i just say 852 00:35:55,190 --> 00:35:53,280 well i have nothing to hide you know 853 00:35:56,950 --> 00:35:55,200 okay there you go it's out of my hands i 854 00:35:58,550 --> 00:35:56,960 don't have to take any action or be mad 855 00:36:00,550 --> 00:35:58,560 at the government for it 856 00:36:02,790 --> 00:36:00,560 you know and i would have thought people 857 00:36:05,190 --> 00:36:02,800 would value their privacy more 858 00:36:06,870 --> 00:36:05,200 you know and uh to kind of not expect 859 00:36:08,230 --> 00:36:06,880 the government to be doing that to them 860 00:36:11,430 --> 00:36:08,240 but 861 00:36:12,150 --> 00:36:11,440 nothing happened so i don't know even if 862 00:36:14,550 --> 00:36:12,160 if it came 863 00:36:16,630 --> 00:36:14,560 out that they were doing all these you 864 00:36:17,829 --> 00:36:16,640 know horrible things that there's going 865 00:36:20,870 --> 00:36:17,839 to be any 866 00:36:22,230 --> 00:36:20,880 any any pitchforks out there not that 867 00:36:24,230 --> 00:36:22,240 i'm wanting people get all 868 00:36:25,990 --> 00:36:24,240 upset and be out there but at least you 869 00:36:27,510 --> 00:36:26,000 know call your congressmen 870 00:36:29,589 --> 00:36:27,520 get you know go out there on the streets 871 00:36:31,109 --> 00:36:29,599 and be like hey we as citizens of this 872 00:36:34,310 --> 00:36:31,119 nation deserve better 873 00:36:35,270 --> 00:36:34,320 you know and that's a kind of um i guess 874 00:36:37,349 --> 00:36:35,280 outrage it's 875 00:36:38,310 --> 00:36:37,359 it's almost expected almost every human 876 00:36:41,190 --> 00:36:38,320 being to say 877 00:36:42,950 --> 00:36:41,200 well i pay you taxes you collect them 878 00:36:44,710 --> 00:36:42,960 from me whether i like it or not 879 00:36:46,230 --> 00:36:44,720 you know at least have the decency to 880 00:36:46,950 --> 00:36:46,240 tell me what else you're doing behind my 881 00:36:48,470 --> 00:36:46,960 back 882 00:36:50,390 --> 00:36:48,480 you know of course some things i can 883 00:36:52,069 --> 00:36:50,400 understand you know of this for security 884 00:36:53,109 --> 00:36:52,079 reasons but then again they use the 885 00:36:56,390 --> 00:36:53,119 security reasons 886 00:36:57,510 --> 00:36:56,400 um example not to tell you anything for 887 00:36:59,190 --> 00:36:57,520 anything at all 888 00:37:00,790 --> 00:36:59,200 you know they're just what any question 889 00:37:02,710 --> 00:37:00,800 you have it's like sorry 890 00:37:04,710 --> 00:37:02,720 this is security national security 891 00:37:07,910 --> 00:37:04,720 problem or national security 892 00:37:17,270 --> 00:37:07,920 uh issue you know and so yeah i don't 893 00:37:21,510 --> 00:37:20,630 so uh drew baber says i said this when 894 00:37:23,990 --> 00:37:21,520 ttsa 895 00:37:24,710 --> 00:37:24,000 formed and i'll say it again this is all 896 00:37:27,190 --> 00:37:24,720 about money 897 00:37:29,190 --> 00:37:27,200 for black projects and the industrial 898 00:37:31,910 --> 00:37:29,200 military complex this was never about 899 00:37:34,069 --> 00:37:31,920 disclosure or the truth 900 00:37:36,069 --> 00:37:34,079 you know if this was the case i think 901 00:37:38,870 --> 00:37:36,079 they're gonna have to then 902 00:37:40,230 --> 00:37:38,880 by you know if we do expect the same 903 00:37:41,750 --> 00:37:40,240 same thing from everyone else they're 904 00:37:42,390 --> 00:37:41,760 gonna have to start reeling it back in 905 00:37:44,710 --> 00:37:42,400 again 906 00:37:46,710 --> 00:37:44,720 you know to not be as open with with 907 00:37:49,270 --> 00:37:46,720 this ufo like you have been to just kind 908 00:37:51,349 --> 00:37:49,280 of be forthcoming and reports coming out 909 00:37:52,710 --> 00:37:51,359 and then even report like i said they 910 00:37:55,030 --> 00:37:52,720 didn't pooh-pooh it they just 911 00:37:56,310 --> 00:37:55,040 they were like well we you know we need 912 00:37:58,150 --> 00:37:56,320 to invest more money and this is 913 00:38:00,230 --> 00:37:58,160 something to look into 914 00:38:04,470 --> 00:38:00,240 and so i don't know how that how that 915 00:38:07,510 --> 00:38:04,480 rollback would work 916 00:38:08,950 --> 00:38:07,520 okay i have a crypto on telegram but 917 00:38:11,750 --> 00:38:08,960 probably just listening in 918 00:38:12,550 --> 00:38:11,760 and and uh i'll see if he wants to talk 919 00:38:14,150 --> 00:38:12,560 to me 920 00:38:17,190 --> 00:38:14,160 just please raise your hand otherwise 921 00:38:21,670 --> 00:38:17,200 welcome and just listen and 922 00:38:27,430 --> 00:38:26,230 so elijah hello our m roland hello as 923 00:38:38,630 --> 00:38:27,440 well 924 00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:44,630 oh all right let's switch over 925 00:38:48,950 --> 00:38:47,030 all right crypto you you are unmuted and 926 00:38:52,630 --> 00:38:48,960 mute yourself on your end and uh 927 00:38:54,870 --> 00:38:52,640 you can speak to me oh 928 00:38:56,550 --> 00:38:54,880 right on thank you very much no thank 929 00:39:00,069 --> 00:38:56,560 you for for uh 930 00:39:02,310 --> 00:39:00,079 logging in yeah i know uh 931 00:39:04,550 --> 00:39:02,320 i appreciate the opportunity to speak to 932 00:39:07,270 --> 00:39:04,560 you i've seen you before on uh uf hope 933 00:39:08,150 --> 00:39:07,280 uh ufo hub i've been a long long time 934 00:39:10,470 --> 00:39:08,160 fan 935 00:39:12,950 --> 00:39:10,480 and thank you yeah this is great this is 936 00:39:17,109 --> 00:39:14,710 so do you would you like to share a 937 00:39:18,630 --> 00:39:17,119 story or just simply chat about 938 00:39:20,230 --> 00:39:18,640 actually i wanted to ask you first 939 00:39:24,150 --> 00:39:20,240 before you begin if you don't mind what 940 00:39:27,030 --> 00:39:24,160 are your thoughts about the ufo report 941 00:39:28,470 --> 00:39:27,040 um sorry did you say the the ufo report 942 00:39:31,030 --> 00:39:28,480 that just came out recently 943 00:39:32,710 --> 00:39:31,040 correct i uh i didn't i haven't heard of 944 00:39:37,990 --> 00:39:32,720 it sorry to be honest um 945 00:39:39,829 --> 00:39:38,000 okay that's all right i figured i asked 946 00:39:43,270 --> 00:39:39,839 okay yeah was there something new that 947 00:39:46,630 --> 00:39:43,280 came out like from maybe biden or 948 00:39:49,910 --> 00:39:46,640 well no this was a um a report that was 949 00:39:51,670 --> 00:39:49,920 already signed uh i think late 2019 and 950 00:39:55,190 --> 00:39:51,680 the 2.3 951 00:39:58,390 --> 00:39:55,200 million 2.2.3 trillion 952 00:40:00,230 --> 00:39:58,400 stimulus bill they were kind of uh 953 00:40:01,510 --> 00:40:00,240 that was signed by trump it was about 954 00:40:04,069 --> 00:40:01,520 okay uh 955 00:40:05,349 --> 00:40:04,079 so much aid to go here so much aid to go 956 00:40:07,829 --> 00:40:05,359 there oh and also 957 00:40:08,470 --> 00:40:07,839 uh release what you know about ufos and 958 00:40:10,950 --> 00:40:08,480 kind of 959 00:40:12,230 --> 00:40:10,960 took everyone by surprise and so from 960 00:40:14,950 --> 00:40:12,240 that date there was 961 00:40:16,710 --> 00:40:14,960 there was like 180 day countdown and so 962 00:40:20,069 --> 00:40:16,720 that just recently ended 963 00:40:22,309 --> 00:40:20,079 and um i i kind of covered it i 964 00:40:24,470 --> 00:40:22,319 uh covered it just a little bit it was 965 00:40:27,270 --> 00:40:24,480 just very short it's a nine page 966 00:40:29,109 --> 00:40:27,280 document if you don't take to take a pen 967 00:40:31,589 --> 00:40:29,119 appendix out and the intro 968 00:40:32,309 --> 00:40:31,599 it's basically a seven-page document but 969 00:40:34,710 --> 00:40:32,319 um 970 00:40:36,230 --> 00:40:34,720 they didn't deny you know they just said 971 00:40:37,589 --> 00:40:36,240 that this needs to be researched more 972 00:40:40,069 --> 00:40:37,599 which i thought was 973 00:40:41,750 --> 00:40:40,079 you know uh different than before so i 974 00:40:44,390 --> 00:40:41,760 just that's why i was asking 975 00:40:45,750 --> 00:40:44,400 to see a few thoughts about that on your 976 00:40:48,069 --> 00:40:45,760 own 977 00:40:50,150 --> 00:40:48,079 oh yeah no i i personally i didn't know 978 00:40:51,430 --> 00:40:50,160 they had released uh some new documents 979 00:40:53,589 --> 00:40:51,440 but that's definitely an interesting 980 00:40:56,950 --> 00:40:53,599 topic uh to talk about uh 981 00:40:57,829 --> 00:40:56,960 yeah for sure okay so what's on your 982 00:41:00,069 --> 00:40:57,839 mind 983 00:41:00,870 --> 00:41:00,079 is it is it crypto or do you do you want 984 00:41:03,270 --> 00:41:00,880 me to call it 985 00:41:05,349 --> 00:41:03,280 no no no it's not crypto no no no i am a 986 00:41:05,990 --> 00:41:05,359 crypto guy but no i didn't pop in for 987 00:41:08,069 --> 00:41:06,000 any crypto 988 00:41:09,990 --> 00:41:08,079 shilling or anything like that i came 989 00:41:12,790 --> 00:41:10,000 from my my background in uf 990 00:41:15,030 --> 00:41:12,800 uh ufo my interest in ufos which was uh 991 00:41:16,630 --> 00:41:15,040 a longer time than crypto which has 992 00:41:18,870 --> 00:41:16,640 been about three years i've been 993 00:41:19,270 --> 00:41:18,880 interested in ufo basically my whole 994 00:41:21,750 --> 00:41:19,280 life 995 00:41:23,589 --> 00:41:21,760 so that yeah i came i came to the ufo 996 00:41:26,150 --> 00:41:23,599 side and i wanted to talk to you 997 00:41:28,230 --> 00:41:26,160 um if you don't mind uh about ray yeah 998 00:41:30,630 --> 00:41:28,240 if you remember uh reiku selandik with 999 00:41:33,589 --> 00:41:30,640 the 32 species that's right 1000 00:41:35,109 --> 00:41:33,599 right okay yeah go ahead um i to be 1001 00:41:37,190 --> 00:41:35,119 honest i don't know how much i can tell 1002 00:41:40,550 --> 00:41:37,200 you because something 1003 00:41:43,349 --> 00:41:40,560 i don't know um so what happened was 1004 00:41:43,829 --> 00:41:43,359 i moved to arkansas right and this was 1005 00:41:47,270 --> 00:41:43,839 uh 1006 00:41:50,230 --> 00:41:47,280 around 2015 and so of course 1007 00:41:51,430 --> 00:41:50,240 uh ray and my late friend joe we used to 1008 00:41:53,910 --> 00:41:51,440 hang out all the time 1009 00:41:54,950 --> 00:41:53,920 you know and we were uh just always you 1010 00:41:56,710 --> 00:41:54,960 know talking about 1011 00:41:59,109 --> 00:41:56,720 you know ray would you talk about his 1012 00:42:00,470 --> 00:41:59,119 experiences then of course joe was more 1013 00:42:01,910 --> 00:42:00,480 of the researcher type 1014 00:42:03,430 --> 00:42:01,920 you know so he would then always like 1015 00:42:04,069 --> 00:42:03,440 you know question him and we always have 1016 00:42:06,230 --> 00:42:04,079 like this 1017 00:42:08,150 --> 00:42:06,240 you know good dynamic between you know 1018 00:42:09,270 --> 00:42:08,160 this this weird thing is happening to us 1019 00:42:12,630 --> 00:42:09,280 let's figure this out 1020 00:42:15,109 --> 00:42:12,640 well anyway i moved and so since then 1021 00:42:15,990 --> 00:42:15,119 unfortunately my my friend joe passed 1022 00:42:19,990 --> 00:42:16,000 away and then 1023 00:42:22,790 --> 00:42:20,000 ray uh disappeared i mean he literally 1024 00:42:24,790 --> 00:42:22,800 lost the apartment nobody knows where he 1025 00:42:29,910 --> 00:42:24,800 sat the meetings he was having no 1026 00:42:31,270 --> 00:42:29,920 no oh my god that's so interesting yeah 1027 00:42:33,510 --> 00:42:31,280 that's what i was calling about that's 1028 00:42:35,349 --> 00:42:33,520 so interesting because yes um 1029 00:42:36,870 --> 00:42:35,359 i'm sorry to hear about your friend uh 1030 00:42:37,510 --> 00:42:36,880 first off i'm sorry to hear about your 1031 00:42:39,990 --> 00:42:37,520 friend 1032 00:42:40,950 --> 00:42:40,000 uh but the disappearance of ray that's 1033 00:42:42,390 --> 00:42:40,960 kind of what i was like 1034 00:42:43,910 --> 00:42:42,400 man have you heard anything like it 1035 00:42:45,990 --> 00:42:43,920 seems like he just disappeared i think i 1036 00:42:47,349 --> 00:42:46,000 had him on facebook or something and i i 1037 00:42:48,390 --> 00:42:47,359 said hi or something i don't think he 1038 00:42:50,870 --> 00:42:48,400 responded 1039 00:42:52,069 --> 00:42:50,880 but since then yeah he was making a few 1040 00:42:54,309 --> 00:42:52,079 posts with uh that 1041 00:42:56,150 --> 00:42:54,319 um the elephant guy or something he was 1042 00:42:58,150 --> 00:42:56,160 making a few post george or something he 1043 00:42:59,349 --> 00:42:58,160 was making some kind of contact videos 1044 00:43:01,270 --> 00:42:59,359 um and then yeah he kind of just 1045 00:43:03,030 --> 00:43:01,280 disappeared i was just wondering uh 1046 00:43:04,470 --> 00:43:03,040 is that kind of how you felt too that he 1047 00:43:06,950 --> 00:43:04,480 had just disappeared 1048 00:43:08,069 --> 00:43:06,960 well the thing is um you know i had 1049 00:43:09,829 --> 00:43:08,079 numbers for him 1050 00:43:11,990 --> 00:43:09,839 you know i had these alternative 1051 00:43:14,150 --> 00:43:12,000 connections to him and all of them just 1052 00:43:15,030 --> 00:43:14,160 dropped and i couldn't call him anymore 1053 00:43:17,270 --> 00:43:15,040 you know and 1054 00:43:18,790 --> 00:43:17,280 um i kept them calling the different 1055 00:43:21,990 --> 00:43:18,800 people in a group and like 1056 00:43:25,589 --> 00:43:22,000 hey what happened to ray you know and so 1057 00:43:29,109 --> 00:43:25,599 um it's i hope 1058 00:43:31,349 --> 00:43:29,119 that he's okay whatever he's had and 1059 00:43:32,230 --> 00:43:31,359 yeah i don't want to talk more about it 1060 00:43:35,910 --> 00:43:32,240 other than 1061 00:43:36,790 --> 00:43:35,920 then there was a very uh there was a 1062 00:43:40,390 --> 00:43:36,800 person 1063 00:43:42,870 --> 00:43:40,400 a a a a woman in this life 1064 00:43:44,150 --> 00:43:42,880 that kind of i don't know how to 1065 00:43:47,750 --> 00:43:44,160 describe it kind of 1066 00:43:50,790 --> 00:43:47,760 just let him astray because he was so 1067 00:43:53,670 --> 00:43:50,800 you know just i guess smitten by him 1068 00:43:53,990 --> 00:43:53,680 you know and and so i don't know and 1069 00:43:56,710 --> 00:43:54,000 then 1070 00:43:58,150 --> 00:43:56,720 that i couldn't get ahold of him 1071 00:43:59,030 --> 00:43:58,160 everyone i talked to they don't know 1072 00:44:02,390 --> 00:43:59,040 where he's at 1073 00:44:04,790 --> 00:44:02,400 um it's he's just he's gone so i'm sorry 1074 00:44:06,550 --> 00:44:04,800 i can't give you any more than that 1075 00:44:08,550 --> 00:44:06,560 no that's okay man it's so cool to be 1076 00:44:10,150 --> 00:44:08,560 talking to you man anything uh anything 1077 00:44:11,349 --> 00:44:10,160 on your channel anything you're talking 1078 00:44:13,510 --> 00:44:11,359 about is is 1079 00:44:14,630 --> 00:44:13,520 is awesome yeah i just i just just gonna 1080 00:44:15,910 --> 00:44:14,640 mention about ray because i 1081 00:44:17,510 --> 00:44:15,920 i literally found him through your 1082 00:44:18,150 --> 00:44:17,520 channel but yeah no that's cool that's 1083 00:44:21,990 --> 00:44:18,160 cool 1084 00:44:24,630 --> 00:44:22,000 um yeah anything like this yeah yeah 1085 00:44:26,390 --> 00:44:24,640 i mean if i if if it was something uh 1086 00:44:27,349 --> 00:44:26,400 personal that somebody asked me not to 1087 00:44:29,030 --> 00:44:27,359 cover 1088 00:44:31,190 --> 00:44:29,040 or if they gave me permission of course 1089 00:44:32,150 --> 00:44:31,200 i would just say it because i don't like 1090 00:44:34,550 --> 00:44:32,160 necessarily 1091 00:44:35,430 --> 00:44:34,560 secrecy i can understand privacy but you 1092 00:44:37,190 --> 00:44:35,440 know to 1093 00:44:38,950 --> 00:44:37,200 to you know that's why i never really 1094 00:44:40,790 --> 00:44:38,960 liked these different groups that i was 1095 00:44:42,790 --> 00:44:40,800 going to you know everyone wanted 1096 00:44:44,630 --> 00:44:42,800 the government to be out and open with 1097 00:44:44,870 --> 00:44:44,640 everybody about what they know but that 1098 00:44:47,109 --> 00:44:44,880 he 1099 00:44:48,790 --> 00:44:47,119 we were behind closed doors at like back 1100 00:44:49,510 --> 00:44:48,800 of bowling alleys discussing all the 1101 00:44:52,390 --> 00:44:49,520 stuff 1102 00:44:53,990 --> 00:44:52,400 and we were really mistrusting of of new 1103 00:44:55,430 --> 00:44:54,000 people and i was trying to convey that 1104 00:44:56,950 --> 00:44:55,440 to the group i said you know please 1105 00:44:57,589 --> 00:44:56,960 allow me to at least stream the group 1106 00:44:59,030 --> 00:44:57,599 it's like no 1107 00:45:00,790 --> 00:44:59,040 i don't want my name out there i want my 1108 00:45:03,190 --> 00:45:00,800 face out there and i said well look 1109 00:45:03,990 --> 00:45:03,200 we have to be this change that we keep 1110 00:45:05,990 --> 00:45:04,000 saying we want to see 1111 00:45:07,829 --> 00:45:06,000 in the world let's put this out there 1112 00:45:08,550 --> 00:45:07,839 you know what what are we talking about 1113 00:45:10,309 --> 00:45:08,560 you know let's 1114 00:45:12,710 --> 00:45:10,319 tell others what what is out here 1115 00:45:14,390 --> 00:45:12,720 instead of worrying that maybe your boss 1116 00:45:16,150 --> 00:45:14,400 might see it that maybe your 1117 00:45:17,349 --> 00:45:16,160 you know your group of friends might see 1118 00:45:18,950 --> 00:45:17,359 it that they want to approve and then 1119 00:45:19,990 --> 00:45:18,960 start making fun of you it's like what's 1120 00:45:22,630 --> 00:45:20,000 more important to you 1121 00:45:23,109 --> 00:45:22,640 is this desire you know more important 1122 00:45:25,109 --> 00:45:23,119 or 1123 00:45:26,710 --> 00:45:25,119 your your friends and your groups and if 1124 00:45:30,309 --> 00:45:26,720 they're not accepting of you maybe you 1125 00:45:33,910 --> 00:45:30,319 need new friends it's just my opinion 1126 00:45:36,230 --> 00:45:33,920 yeah no for sure for sure 1127 00:45:37,829 --> 00:45:36,240 and so um what about you i mean was it 1128 00:45:38,950 --> 00:45:37,839 always just an interest or have you had 1129 00:45:40,950 --> 00:45:38,960 any experiences 1130 00:45:42,550 --> 00:45:40,960 about you know the supernatural in 1131 00:45:44,790 --> 00:45:42,560 general 1132 00:45:47,190 --> 00:45:44,800 um yeah personally i've had some 1133 00:45:48,150 --> 00:45:47,200 experiences i i always uh enjoy looking 1134 00:45:50,390 --> 00:45:48,160 up at the sky 1135 00:45:52,309 --> 00:45:50,400 i enjoy looking up when i when i'm bored 1136 00:45:53,910 --> 00:45:52,319 looking up at the stars and uh 1137 00:45:57,190 --> 00:45:53,920 you know watching the ones that move 1138 00:46:00,470 --> 00:45:57,200 that i obviously know are not stars 1139 00:46:02,069 --> 00:46:00,480 right and um yeah no i've uh basically 1140 00:46:03,829 --> 00:46:02,079 throughout my whole life but i've 1141 00:46:05,829 --> 00:46:03,839 had you know little experiences here and 1142 00:46:07,430 --> 00:46:05,839 there um it kind of started with uh my 1143 00:46:10,309 --> 00:46:07,440 mom told me a story 1144 00:46:11,589 --> 00:46:10,319 um when she was a little girl uh this is 1145 00:46:13,030 --> 00:46:11,599 obviously an old story 1146 00:46:14,790 --> 00:46:13,040 um when she was a little girl walking 1147 00:46:16,790 --> 00:46:14,800 with her mom one day 1148 00:46:18,069 --> 00:46:16,800 they were walking and they looked up and 1149 00:46:19,670 --> 00:46:18,079 i think they were coming from the store 1150 00:46:21,109 --> 00:46:19,680 with some bread and milk or something 1151 00:46:22,870 --> 00:46:21,119 and looked up in the sky 1152 00:46:25,270 --> 00:46:22,880 and i guess would have been a you could 1153 00:46:27,349 --> 00:46:25,280 call it a daytime ufo sighting 1154 00:46:29,270 --> 00:46:27,359 and they seen what i guess at that time 1155 00:46:30,550 --> 00:46:29,280 what they thought was a ufo it was like 1156 00:46:32,710 --> 00:46:30,560 a large disc 1157 00:46:33,750 --> 00:46:32,720 you know shape thing with some windows 1158 00:46:36,550 --> 00:46:33,760 and stuff like kind of 1159 00:46:38,150 --> 00:46:36,560 you know unique or rare looking and uh 1160 00:46:39,670 --> 00:46:38,160 that was it with that and that 1161 00:46:41,270 --> 00:46:39,680 you know she just told me that story 1162 00:46:41,990 --> 00:46:41,280 when i was younger and i've kind of 1163 00:46:43,670 --> 00:46:42,000 always thought about 1164 00:46:45,589 --> 00:46:43,680 it since then to go okay well at least i 1165 00:46:47,589 --> 00:46:45,599 can believe i don't have to 1166 00:46:49,670 --> 00:46:47,599 be too questioning of it if my mom is 1167 00:46:50,390 --> 00:46:49,680 telling me it's it's real then all right 1168 00:46:52,230 --> 00:46:50,400 so 1169 00:46:53,990 --> 00:46:52,240 and then yeah since then i've watched 1170 00:46:56,630 --> 00:46:54,000 and i've had a few instances 1171 00:46:57,510 --> 00:46:56,640 where i've seen uh strange lights uh 1172 00:46:59,670 --> 00:46:57,520 disappear 1173 00:47:01,510 --> 00:46:59,680 you know and stuff like that um i had 1174 00:47:04,069 --> 00:47:01,520 this one time to be honest but it's 1175 00:47:05,990 --> 00:47:04,079 gonna sound crazy when i almost 1176 00:47:07,430 --> 00:47:06,000 well it felt like one kind of went over 1177 00:47:09,030 --> 00:47:07,440 my head but not 1178 00:47:10,550 --> 00:47:09,040 you know not too close to my head or 1179 00:47:12,470 --> 00:47:10,560 anything so i would say to the point 1180 00:47:13,030 --> 00:47:12,480 that i could literally see the bottom of 1181 00:47:15,829 --> 00:47:13,040 it 1182 00:47:17,589 --> 00:47:15,839 and the most the craziest thing i can 1183 00:47:19,270 --> 00:47:17,599 remember about it that i swear i'll 1184 00:47:21,510 --> 00:47:19,280 never change this part of the story 1185 00:47:24,790 --> 00:47:21,520 because it's the only part of the story 1186 00:47:26,309 --> 00:47:24,800 is the way the light glistened 1187 00:47:28,390 --> 00:47:26,319 that's that's that that was the most 1188 00:47:30,710 --> 00:47:28,400 amazing part they literally 1189 00:47:31,829 --> 00:47:30,720 glistened like a diamond like you know 1190 00:47:33,589 --> 00:47:31,839 how when you 1191 00:47:35,270 --> 00:47:33,599 take like a fancy like a diamond with a 1192 00:47:36,549 --> 00:47:35,280 bunch or a fancy ring with a bunch of 1193 00:47:38,069 --> 00:47:36,559 diamonds on it and you shine in the 1194 00:47:39,910 --> 00:47:38,079 light how it kind of sprinkles and 1195 00:47:40,549 --> 00:47:39,920 glitters and moves from you know like 1196 00:47:47,510 --> 00:47:40,559 that 1197 00:47:49,910 --> 00:47:47,520 bottom moved and they were multi-colored 1198 00:47:50,790 --> 00:47:49,920 so that i'll never forget this i swear i 1199 00:47:52,870 --> 00:47:50,800 looked up 1200 00:47:54,549 --> 00:47:52,880 the thing went above me obviously no 1201 00:47:55,109 --> 00:47:54,559 sound nothing and i don't remember much 1202 00:47:56,870 --> 00:47:55,119 more 1203 00:47:58,150 --> 00:47:56,880 but i do remember it was kind of a 1204 00:48:00,710 --> 00:47:58,160 triangular shape 1205 00:48:02,549 --> 00:48:00,720 and the lights underneath they were all 1206 00:48:04,470 --> 00:48:02,559 different colors and they were changing 1207 00:48:06,470 --> 00:48:04,480 the illuminating it was going from this 1208 00:48:07,589 --> 00:48:06,480 one to that one to this one to this one 1209 00:48:09,190 --> 00:48:07,599 to that one 1210 00:48:10,630 --> 00:48:09,200 so yeah that was the the most 1211 00:48:11,270 --> 00:48:10,640 interesting part about it is how it kind 1212 00:48:13,349 --> 00:48:11,280 of glist 1213 00:48:14,790 --> 00:48:13,359 how they all sparkled it was so weird 1214 00:48:15,990 --> 00:48:14,800 that they all sparkled 1215 00:48:17,430 --> 00:48:16,000 you know what i mean it wasn't like a 1216 00:48:18,630 --> 00:48:17,440 regular light you just turn on these 1217 00:48:22,069 --> 00:48:18,640 things were literally on 1218 00:48:24,790 --> 00:48:22,079 and and sparkling like right i guess 1219 00:48:26,230 --> 00:48:24,800 well i mean would you would you say it's 1220 00:48:28,470 --> 00:48:26,240 because of your interest 1221 00:48:29,670 --> 00:48:28,480 and ufos that you saw it or would you 1222 00:48:32,309 --> 00:48:29,680 say that 1223 00:48:34,630 --> 00:48:32,319 the the you that was only happening 1224 00:48:36,150 --> 00:48:34,640 because of your research which approach 1225 00:48:39,750 --> 00:48:36,160 would you would you rather 1226 00:48:42,549 --> 00:48:39,760 feel more connected to um i think 1227 00:48:43,030 --> 00:48:42,559 i think because of my uh understanding 1228 00:48:45,910 --> 00:48:43,040 or 1229 00:48:48,549 --> 00:48:45,920 wanting of understanding right i was 1230 00:48:51,589 --> 00:48:48,559 able i think i was more open to like say 1231 00:48:53,430 --> 00:48:51,599 look up more often and and to you know 1232 00:48:54,470 --> 00:48:53,440 maybe to look a little bit longer than i 1233 00:48:56,630 --> 00:48:54,480 would normally look 1234 00:48:57,990 --> 00:48:56,640 on another occasion right when maybe 1235 00:48:59,430 --> 00:48:58,000 you're just glancing up you see 1236 00:49:01,750 --> 00:48:59,440 something okay cool 1237 00:49:03,510 --> 00:49:01,760 but you know with with me i kind of i 1238 00:49:05,270 --> 00:49:03,520 can look up and i don't mind looking up 1239 00:49:06,230 --> 00:49:05,280 for an extra few minutes just to see if 1240 00:49:07,750 --> 00:49:06,240 i see something 1241 00:49:09,990 --> 00:49:07,760 right right you don't always see 1242 00:49:11,990 --> 00:49:10,000 something but uh sometimes you do and 1243 00:49:13,670 --> 00:49:12,000 and it's cool when you do because you 1244 00:49:15,109 --> 00:49:13,680 see that start i kind of 1245 00:49:16,549 --> 00:49:15,119 well the thing i do is i kind of look at 1246 00:49:17,910 --> 00:49:16,559 the stars it's kind of my thing so i'll 1247 00:49:19,349 --> 00:49:17,920 look at the stars and if there's no 1248 00:49:20,470 --> 00:49:19,359 movement there's no movement i'm not 1249 00:49:22,710 --> 00:49:20,480 crazy but 1250 00:49:24,630 --> 00:49:22,720 every now and then you look up you're 1251 00:49:25,910 --> 00:49:24,640 watching a pattern maybe it's two or 1252 00:49:28,150 --> 00:49:25,920 three or maybe four 1253 00:49:29,910 --> 00:49:28,160 and then all of a sudden you know one of 1254 00:49:31,270 --> 00:49:29,920 them either breaks the pattern or just 1255 00:49:33,349 --> 00:49:31,280 comes out of nowhere 1256 00:49:34,950 --> 00:49:33,359 and just starts cruising along cruising 1257 00:49:36,390 --> 00:49:34,960 along cruising along cruising along and 1258 00:49:38,870 --> 00:49:36,400 then it's gone it's just like 1259 00:49:39,910 --> 00:49:38,880 that is enough like i and i don't tell 1260 00:49:41,349 --> 00:49:39,920 people it's not like i go and tell 1261 00:49:42,870 --> 00:49:41,359 people because it happens a lot like you 1262 00:49:43,990 --> 00:49:42,880 can see this all you have to do is look 1263 00:49:45,910 --> 00:49:44,000 up a little bit longer 1264 00:49:47,670 --> 00:49:45,920 than you normally would right and you 1265 00:49:49,190 --> 00:49:47,680 can see this stuff right and you can see 1266 00:49:51,030 --> 00:49:49,200 it 1267 00:49:52,790 --> 00:49:51,040 but you know what's interesting is that 1268 00:49:54,069 --> 00:49:52,800 um you know 1269 00:49:56,309 --> 00:49:54,079 when when it comes to these different 1270 00:49:59,430 --> 00:49:56,319 experiences like we 1271 00:50:01,190 --> 00:49:59,440 we all in a way just you know just 1272 00:50:01,510 --> 00:50:01,200 speaking to you and i'm sure you hear 1273 00:50:03,349 --> 00:50:01,520 this 1274 00:50:05,030 --> 00:50:03,359 you know from my voice and listen to 1275 00:50:07,430 --> 00:50:05,040 other people it's not 1276 00:50:08,309 --> 00:50:07,440 necessarily about oh my god let me just 1277 00:50:12,309 --> 00:50:08,319 be the most 1278 00:50:14,230 --> 00:50:12,319 um crazy loud person about this so that 1279 00:50:15,270 --> 00:50:14,240 somebody believes me what in the world 1280 00:50:18,150 --> 00:50:15,280 is going on 1281 00:50:19,829 --> 00:50:18,160 it's it just seems like you know most of 1282 00:50:21,990 --> 00:50:19,839 us have just these these normal 1283 00:50:23,270 --> 00:50:22,000 everyday lives with other interests and 1284 00:50:24,870 --> 00:50:23,280 other things to do 1285 00:50:27,349 --> 00:50:24,880 and that all these different things are 1286 00:50:29,349 --> 00:50:27,359 happening but yet in a weird kind of way 1287 00:50:32,470 --> 00:50:29,359 where we would get more curious 1288 00:50:34,790 --> 00:50:32,480 they you know others would not and so 1289 00:50:35,589 --> 00:50:34,800 that's what's that dichotomy has always 1290 00:50:37,510 --> 00:50:35,599 kind of 1291 00:50:38,870 --> 00:50:37,520 been strange to me you know it's like 1292 00:50:41,430 --> 00:50:38,880 why you know 1293 00:50:42,950 --> 00:50:41,440 um you know why wouldn't you know some 1294 00:50:43,750 --> 00:50:42,960 of these other people just look into 1295 00:50:45,349 --> 00:50:43,760 this because you know 1296 00:50:47,670 --> 00:50:45,359 don't we all want to get to the bottom 1297 00:50:48,069 --> 00:50:47,680 of it to to find out are we the only 1298 00:50:49,750 --> 00:50:48,079 ones 1299 00:50:51,190 --> 00:50:49,760 here in the universe or not you know you 1300 00:50:52,150 --> 00:50:51,200 would have thought that is the the 1301 00:50:54,790 --> 00:50:52,160 biggest question 1302 00:50:55,270 --> 00:50:54,800 for for the whole planet in general but 1303 00:50:57,270 --> 00:50:55,280 um 1304 00:50:58,630 --> 00:50:57,280 i guess your priorities would change if 1305 00:51:01,030 --> 00:50:58,640 you don't have food 1306 00:51:02,309 --> 00:51:01,040 or don't have shelter or homeless i can 1307 00:51:04,390 --> 00:51:02,319 definitely see where 1308 00:51:05,670 --> 00:51:04,400 you could not give two shits about ufos 1309 00:51:08,549 --> 00:51:05,680 you know and your next 1310 00:51:10,150 --> 00:51:08,559 next you know uh focus in your life is 1311 00:51:11,750 --> 00:51:10,160 where you're going to get a meal and 1312 00:51:12,309 --> 00:51:11,760 where could you possibly sleep for the 1313 00:51:13,750 --> 00:51:12,319 night 1314 00:51:15,990 --> 00:51:13,760 you know so that's kind of the worst 1315 00:51:19,030 --> 00:51:16,000 case scenario that guy can think of 1316 00:51:19,910 --> 00:51:19,040 but generally you know um i i would have 1317 00:51:21,349 --> 00:51:19,920 always thought that 1318 00:51:23,430 --> 00:51:21,359 you know knowing whether or not we're 1319 00:51:24,630 --> 00:51:23,440 alone would be on everybody's interests 1320 00:51:28,470 --> 00:51:24,640 and mind but 1321 00:51:31,510 --> 00:51:30,710 yeah i know definitely i have to agree 1322 00:51:33,430 --> 00:51:31,520 100 1323 00:51:35,190 --> 00:51:33,440 yeah definitely yeah it's all about 1324 00:51:37,349 --> 00:51:35,200 perspective yeah you could be 1325 00:51:38,870 --> 00:51:37,359 a person that you know wants to learn 1326 00:51:41,109 --> 00:51:38,880 needs to learn uh 1327 00:51:42,150 --> 00:51:41,119 you know and and it could be a life or 1328 00:51:45,270 --> 00:51:42,160 death situation 1329 00:51:46,390 --> 00:51:45,280 or it could uh just simply or you could 1330 00:51:48,790 --> 00:51:46,400 be like you said 1331 00:51:50,549 --> 00:51:48,800 in another situation where it uh it 1332 00:51:53,510 --> 00:51:50,559 doesn't really um 1333 00:51:54,950 --> 00:51:53,520 affect you to know or not you know but 1334 00:51:56,710 --> 00:51:54,960 where you're more concerned about like 1335 00:51:58,950 --> 00:51:56,720 you said your next meal or something 1336 00:52:03,349 --> 00:51:58,960 like that yeah 1337 00:52:06,870 --> 00:52:03,359 right yeah i find um you know i find 1338 00:52:10,069 --> 00:52:06,880 i think it all depends on uh which place 1339 00:52:10,470 --> 00:52:10,079 and and i guess from country country i 1340 00:52:12,950 --> 00:52:10,480 guess 1341 00:52:13,670 --> 00:52:12,960 each country has has the difficulties 1342 00:52:17,109 --> 00:52:13,680 and things to 1343 00:52:18,069 --> 00:52:17,119 to overcome and do but um i think once 1344 00:52:19,510 --> 00:52:18,079 you get to a certain 1345 00:52:22,390 --> 00:52:19,520 point because i remember when we were 1346 00:52:24,790 --> 00:52:22,400 younger um i mean we're definitely poor 1347 00:52:26,710 --> 00:52:24,800 but my parents always made sure that my 1348 00:52:29,270 --> 00:52:26,720 brother and i we never went hungry 1349 00:52:30,950 --> 00:52:29,280 you know we had nothing but you know i 1350 00:52:32,549 --> 00:52:30,960 didn't have to worry about will there be 1351 00:52:33,589 --> 00:52:32,559 food on the table because my mom and dad 1352 00:52:36,870 --> 00:52:33,599 always made sure that 1353 00:52:39,910 --> 00:52:36,880 you know that it was you know and and so 1354 00:52:40,870 --> 00:52:39,920 um it's only when you get to a certain 1355 00:52:43,670 --> 00:52:40,880 point you know 1356 00:52:44,630 --> 00:52:43,680 by them you know basically making sure 1357 00:52:46,950 --> 00:52:44,640 we go to school 1358 00:52:48,710 --> 00:52:46,960 educate ourselves learn what we can when 1359 00:52:49,910 --> 00:52:48,720 we got to a certain point certain level 1360 00:52:52,390 --> 00:52:49,920 and you get comfortable 1361 00:52:53,270 --> 00:52:52,400 and you have a good job and and you know 1362 00:52:55,910 --> 00:52:53,280 you're just 1363 00:52:57,030 --> 00:52:55,920 living you know your middle class life 1364 00:52:58,870 --> 00:52:57,040 you know only then 1365 00:53:00,790 --> 00:52:58,880 the other things become more interesting 1366 00:53:02,390 --> 00:53:00,800 you know like taking care of the planet 1367 00:53:03,750 --> 00:53:02,400 making sure you don't litter you know 1368 00:53:06,150 --> 00:53:03,760 all these basic things 1369 00:53:06,870 --> 00:53:06,160 because once that once that basic need 1370 00:53:09,030 --> 00:53:06,880 is met 1371 00:53:11,030 --> 00:53:09,040 if you don't nothing would matter you 1372 00:53:11,990 --> 00:53:11,040 don't matter you can you can be like hey 1373 00:53:13,910 --> 00:53:12,000 man you know 1374 00:53:15,829 --> 00:53:13,920 go to to a person that's on the verge of 1375 00:53:17,430 --> 00:53:15,839 starving to death and like yeah you have 1376 00:53:18,150 --> 00:53:17,440 false landed and they're like i don't 1377 00:53:19,430 --> 00:53:18,160 care 1378 00:53:21,190 --> 00:53:19,440 you know it's like do you have some 1379 00:53:23,430 --> 00:53:21,200 bread you know and so 1380 00:53:25,670 --> 00:53:23,440 i guess your perception and priorities 1381 00:53:28,710 --> 00:53:25,680 you know different that in that sense 1382 00:53:30,150 --> 00:53:28,720 but um so but do you think uh there 1383 00:53:31,270 --> 00:53:30,160 might be some the connection i'm sorry 1384 00:53:33,109 --> 00:53:31,280 i'm kind of uh 1385 00:53:34,710 --> 00:53:33,119 switching subjects real quick regarding 1386 00:53:36,710 --> 00:53:34,720 your mom and her experience 1387 00:53:38,150 --> 00:53:36,720 do you think it might be a generational 1388 00:53:41,190 --> 00:53:38,160 thing to so that 1389 00:53:42,790 --> 00:53:41,200 whatever you know how prone she was to 1390 00:53:46,870 --> 00:53:42,800 having more experiences that that would 1391 00:53:49,430 --> 00:53:46,880 be kind of um kind of passed on to you 1392 00:53:50,710 --> 00:53:49,440 yeah well i i i haven't thought about it 1393 00:53:52,870 --> 00:53:50,720 until you said it like 1394 00:53:53,910 --> 00:53:52,880 like that but yeah definitely i do i do 1395 00:53:56,309 --> 00:53:53,920 think 1396 00:53:58,150 --> 00:53:56,319 that's how it works and uh it's kind of 1397 00:53:59,910 --> 00:53:58,160 it's like that you know they um 1398 00:54:01,510 --> 00:53:59,920 you know someone like your close 1399 00:54:03,349 --> 00:54:01,520 relative like your mom or your dad or 1400 00:54:06,710 --> 00:54:03,359 something has an experience 1401 00:54:08,230 --> 00:54:06,720 and uh it's just easier for you in a way 1402 00:54:11,829 --> 00:54:08,240 to 1403 00:54:13,829 --> 00:54:11,839 not so 1404 00:54:15,270 --> 00:54:13,839 it doesn't bounce off you so hard you're 1405 00:54:17,190 --> 00:54:15,280 not as shocked by it 1406 00:54:19,430 --> 00:54:17,200 you're more like you're more able to be 1407 00:54:21,510 --> 00:54:19,440 like okay well all right maybe i could 1408 00:54:22,870 --> 00:54:21,520 i could open up to this like you know my 1409 00:54:23,510 --> 00:54:22,880 mom's looking me dead in the eye and 1410 00:54:25,510 --> 00:54:23,520 telling me 1411 00:54:27,030 --> 00:54:25,520 you know without trying to get anything 1412 00:54:28,710 --> 00:54:27,040 like she's not trying to prove anything 1413 00:54:30,150 --> 00:54:28,720 or she'll you know show off in any way 1414 00:54:32,390 --> 00:54:30,160 she's just telling me 1415 00:54:34,390 --> 00:54:32,400 of an experience that she had a as 1416 00:54:36,069 --> 00:54:34,400 truthful as she could tell it which was 1417 00:54:37,510 --> 00:54:36,079 she seen what she seen she was walking 1418 00:54:40,390 --> 00:54:37,520 with her mom they seen 1419 00:54:41,990 --> 00:54:40,400 basically a ufo and that was it and it's 1420 00:54:46,309 --> 00:54:42,000 just like okay cool like 1421 00:54:48,870 --> 00:54:46,319 right on right 1422 00:54:50,390 --> 00:54:48,880 well so what kind of who was what were 1423 00:54:53,990 --> 00:54:50,400 you kind of drawn to first 1424 00:54:54,870 --> 00:54:54,000 uh in your in your i guess uh desire to 1425 00:54:56,630 --> 00:54:54,880 learn more about 1426 00:54:58,950 --> 00:54:56,640 you know ufos and what in the world is 1427 00:55:01,510 --> 00:54:58,960 going on was it was there a specific 1428 00:55:03,349 --> 00:55:01,520 author that um you would recommend maybe 1429 00:55:03,910 --> 00:55:03,359 to someone who might be just at the 1430 00:55:06,870 --> 00:55:03,920 beginning 1431 00:55:08,710 --> 00:55:06,880 or even even seasoned veterans you know 1432 00:55:10,309 --> 00:55:08,720 what what is your general approach do 1433 00:55:12,549 --> 00:55:10,319 you just kind of take in 1434 00:55:14,870 --> 00:55:12,559 whatever is available or do you have a 1435 00:55:17,270 --> 00:55:14,880 systematic process 1436 00:55:20,150 --> 00:55:17,280 uh definitely yeah i have a systematic 1437 00:55:23,270 --> 00:55:20,160 process for sure i definitely i believe 1438 00:55:25,430 --> 00:55:23,280 in research and obviously you can only 1439 00:55:27,430 --> 00:55:25,440 research what's available right and and 1440 00:55:29,510 --> 00:55:27,440 how it comes at you and you know 1441 00:55:31,270 --> 00:55:29,520 and unlike that but yeah definitely it's 1442 00:55:34,309 --> 00:55:31,280 um you go at it with 1443 00:55:37,510 --> 00:55:34,319 um with with the with an open mind 1444 00:55:39,510 --> 00:55:37,520 and uh the the willingness to to go a 1445 00:55:43,510 --> 00:55:39,520 little bit further when you need to 1446 00:55:45,990 --> 00:55:43,520 um so for example uh you could start off 1447 00:55:47,829 --> 00:55:46,000 with roswell i guess that would be like 1448 00:55:48,870 --> 00:55:47,839 a reasonable start you could go back if 1449 00:55:51,589 --> 00:55:48,880 you want further 1450 00:55:52,710 --> 00:55:51,599 wanted to like to some painting i think 1451 00:55:54,470 --> 00:55:52,720 that's the beginning almost for 1452 00:55:56,309 --> 00:55:54,480 everybody 1453 00:55:58,069 --> 00:55:56,319 yeah i was gonna say but there's like a 1454 00:55:59,510 --> 00:55:58,079 famous painting i don't know how old it 1455 00:56:01,510 --> 00:55:59,520 is and you look in the painting and i 1456 00:56:04,549 --> 00:56:01,520 think there's a little ufo or something 1457 00:56:07,349 --> 00:56:04,559 you could go that far right right but 1458 00:56:08,789 --> 00:56:07,359 uh just to go from roswell i kind of you 1459 00:56:09,829 --> 00:56:08,799 could just start from there and 1460 00:56:13,670 --> 00:56:09,839 basically 1461 00:56:14,470 --> 00:56:13,680 like i said in the last three and a half 1462 00:56:16,710 --> 00:56:14,480 years i've been 1463 00:56:18,230 --> 00:56:16,720 down in the crypto rabbit hole uh 1464 00:56:23,270 --> 00:56:18,240 without coming up for air 1465 00:56:26,150 --> 00:56:23,280 that was what i did up until january 1466 00:56:27,030 --> 00:56:26,160 2018 as i was on the um on that rabbit 1467 00:56:28,630 --> 00:56:27,040 hole 1468 00:56:30,150 --> 00:56:28,640 but you know you almost would have to 1469 00:56:31,750 --> 00:56:30,160 because if you want to be good at 1470 00:56:33,589 --> 00:56:31,760 anything especially if you're 1471 00:56:35,750 --> 00:56:33,599 trying to invest or risking something 1472 00:56:37,510 --> 00:56:35,760 crypto you would want to be aware 1473 00:56:42,789 --> 00:56:37,520 i don't want to make it into you know 1474 00:56:45,990 --> 00:56:44,069 oh sorry did you say do i have any 1475 00:56:46,630 --> 00:56:46,000 favorites yeah i said do you know do you 1476 00:56:48,950 --> 00:56:46,640 have any 1477 00:56:49,750 --> 00:56:48,960 favorites you're rooting for uh bitcoin 1478 00:56:52,150 --> 00:56:49,760 oh definitely 1479 00:56:53,589 --> 00:56:52,160 um yeah definitely uh bitcoin and 1480 00:56:56,950 --> 00:56:53,599 ethereum are both awesome 1481 00:56:58,230 --> 00:56:56,960 um uh definitely a vitalik buter and 1482 00:57:00,309 --> 00:56:58,240 he's the the 1483 00:57:02,870 --> 00:57:00,319 the the face basically of ethereum and 1484 00:57:04,789 --> 00:57:02,880 he's uh i would say a genius 1485 00:57:05,990 --> 00:57:04,799 right so um even though there's a lot of 1486 00:57:09,349 --> 00:57:06,000 um let's say 1487 00:57:10,870 --> 00:57:09,359 um uh smart contract platform like wars 1488 00:57:12,150 --> 00:57:10,880 and stuff and everyone wants to be the 1489 00:57:14,069 --> 00:57:12,160 best 1490 00:57:15,829 --> 00:57:14,079 obviously if i had a chance to speak i 1491 00:57:18,710 --> 00:57:15,839 would say you got to give credit where 1492 00:57:20,950 --> 00:57:18,720 it's due as far as a standalone thing if 1493 00:57:23,190 --> 00:57:20,960 there's bitcoin it does what it does 1494 00:57:25,270 --> 00:57:23,200 and as far as a smart contract platform 1495 00:57:27,430 --> 00:57:25,280 they may not be the most scalable 1496 00:57:29,510 --> 00:57:27,440 and stuff like that but ethereum is uh 1497 00:57:32,710 --> 00:57:29,520 the original bad boy uh in that 1498 00:57:35,270 --> 00:57:32,720 uh category what are you personally 1499 00:57:41,349 --> 00:57:35,280 right i was just gonna ask real quick 1500 00:57:43,030 --> 00:57:41,359 what about uh no both of those is a no 1501 00:57:44,789 --> 00:57:43,040 and then a no 1502 00:57:46,150 --> 00:57:44,799 so if there's any listeners listening 1503 00:57:48,230 --> 00:57:46,160 listening and those 1504 00:57:49,829 --> 00:57:48,240 uh dogecoin you can give a pass as far 1505 00:57:50,870 --> 00:57:49,839 as holding a little bit of it so if you 1506 00:57:52,710 --> 00:57:50,880 wanted to have 1507 00:57:54,150 --> 00:57:52,720 50 bucks or 100 bucks have it just say 1508 00:57:56,950 --> 00:57:54,160 you have some dogecoin 1509 00:57:58,470 --> 00:57:56,960 and xrp that's like a traders coin and 1510 00:57:59,910 --> 00:57:58,480 uh so that one you could use if you're 1511 00:58:01,430 --> 00:57:59,920 trying to get into maybe 1512 00:58:03,030 --> 00:58:01,440 different kinds of spot trading and 1513 00:58:04,950 --> 00:58:03,040 stuff like that but they are actually in 1514 00:58:08,470 --> 00:58:04,960 a lawsuit right now xrp 1515 00:58:10,630 --> 00:58:08,480 so that one gets the big red flag but uh 1516 00:58:13,270 --> 00:58:10,640 the one i'm into is actually a romanian 1517 00:58:15,589 --> 00:58:13,280 uh company uh it's called elrond 1518 00:58:16,789 --> 00:58:15,599 um and they have a coin called eagled 1519 00:58:18,950 --> 00:58:16,799 and yeah that's 1520 00:58:21,109 --> 00:58:18,960 that's the one i'm into uh they are 1521 00:58:23,750 --> 00:58:21,119 basically um like aetherium but 1522 00:58:24,710 --> 00:58:23,760 um on steroids right so if you could 1523 00:58:26,789 --> 00:58:24,720 think of 1524 00:58:28,470 --> 00:58:26,799 ethereum how it's a smart contract 1525 00:58:30,309 --> 00:58:28,480 platform and everything in crypto is 1526 00:58:35,510 --> 00:58:30,319 basically like a smart contract 1527 00:58:37,589 --> 00:58:35,520 um lrond is the ethereum 2.030 4.0 1528 00:58:39,589 --> 00:58:37,599 like that and yeah so that's that those 1529 00:58:42,549 --> 00:58:39,599 are that's the one i'm after for 1530 00:58:44,309 --> 00:58:42,559 our smart contracts is lron and for fun 1531 00:58:45,910 --> 00:58:44,319 and like gaming stuff there's one called 1532 00:58:46,309 --> 00:58:45,920 avigachi i don't know if you've heard of 1533 00:58:50,069 --> 00:58:46,319 it 1534 00:58:51,430 --> 00:58:50,079 yeah 1535 00:58:54,630 --> 00:58:51,440 those two are pretty cool to check out 1536 00:58:56,549 --> 00:58:54,640 avagachi and uh elrond 1537 00:58:57,829 --> 00:58:56,559 all right well thank you thank you for 1538 00:58:59,910 --> 00:58:57,839 for sharing that 1539 00:59:01,750 --> 00:58:59,920 so um what do you what do you think 1540 00:59:04,069 --> 00:59:01,760 regarding uh ufos and 1541 00:59:05,750 --> 00:59:04,079 and general sightings uh will do you 1542 00:59:07,270 --> 00:59:05,760 think it will continue in your life or 1543 00:59:08,470 --> 00:59:07,280 do you think it'll progress to something 1544 00:59:12,470 --> 00:59:08,480 else or will it just stay 1545 00:59:14,470 --> 00:59:12,480 how it has been um for you uh 1546 00:59:16,309 --> 00:59:14,480 definitely yeah no i do think i do think 1547 00:59:18,549 --> 00:59:16,319 it'll progress i think uh 1548 00:59:20,470 --> 00:59:18,559 i'm gonna see it some more uh as time 1549 00:59:21,670 --> 00:59:20,480 goes on i guess to touch back on where 1550 00:59:23,829 --> 00:59:21,680 we were going where uh 1551 00:59:25,270 --> 00:59:23,839 uh my like strategy or whatever kind of 1552 00:59:27,750 --> 00:59:25,280 um yeah you look at 1553 00:59:28,870 --> 00:59:27,760 roswell you know you take it back to 47 1554 00:59:31,750 --> 00:59:28,880 on everybody 1555 00:59:33,430 --> 00:59:31,760 and you say uh something happened uh 1556 00:59:36,150 --> 00:59:33,440 everybody knows something happened 1557 00:59:38,230 --> 00:59:36,160 whether there was a few bodies found 1558 00:59:40,069 --> 00:59:38,240 that day whether there was the like just 1559 00:59:41,670 --> 00:59:40,079 to go into your memory just to try to go 1560 00:59:42,789 --> 00:59:41,680 off your memory just shooting it without 1561 00:59:45,589 --> 00:59:42,799 looking at anything 1562 00:59:46,390 --> 00:59:45,599 whether there was four bodies found okay 1563 00:59:48,950 --> 00:59:46,400 or there was 1564 00:59:49,910 --> 00:59:48,960 two bodies one burned one still half 1565 00:59:51,510 --> 00:59:49,920 alive like 1566 00:59:53,430 --> 00:59:51,520 it doesn't really matter you know maybe 1567 00:59:56,309 --> 00:59:53,440 there was no bodies and maybe there was 1568 00:59:57,829 --> 00:59:56,319 10 bodies but at the end of the day a 1569 01:00:00,230 --> 00:59:57,839 ship or two crashed 1570 01:00:02,630 --> 01:00:00,240 there was a body or two maybe like you 1571 01:00:05,030 --> 01:00:02,640 know what i mean these things happened 1572 01:00:06,069 --> 01:00:05,040 um obviously the the air force came in 1573 01:00:07,910 --> 01:00:06,079 uh quick 1574 01:00:09,750 --> 01:00:07,920 everything got covered up and turned 1575 01:00:11,109 --> 01:00:09,760 into an air balloon joke and water 1576 01:00:12,630 --> 01:00:11,119 balloon whatever you guys want 1577 01:00:14,470 --> 01:00:12,640 or whatever they wanted to say you know 1578 01:00:16,150 --> 01:00:14,480 a piece of tinfoil whatever 1579 01:00:18,710 --> 01:00:16,160 but at the end of the day some crazy 1580 01:00:21,510 --> 01:00:18,720 [\h__\h] happened uh during that event 1581 01:00:23,109 --> 01:00:21,520 um i did see a video where the uh one of 1582 01:00:25,349 --> 01:00:23,119 the generals i think it's basically the 1583 01:00:27,349 --> 01:00:25,359 main guy that he even admitted he had to 1584 01:00:29,349 --> 01:00:27,359 hold something that wasn't what was 1585 01:00:30,230 --> 01:00:29,359 found he had to hold that for the 1586 01:00:33,190 --> 01:00:30,240 picture 1587 01:00:35,190 --> 01:00:33,200 right so he took i think a piece of it 1588 01:00:36,950 --> 01:00:35,200 was like a problem 1589 01:00:38,549 --> 01:00:36,960 it was like a prop right that they had 1590 01:00:40,390 --> 01:00:38,559 him hold so that they could 1591 01:00:42,150 --> 01:00:40,400 you know make everything look funny and 1592 01:00:44,309 --> 01:00:42,160 he he regrettably uh 1593 01:00:45,430 --> 01:00:44,319 held it he knew it wasn't the piece that 1594 01:00:47,030 --> 01:00:45,440 he they had found 1595 01:00:48,789 --> 01:00:47,040 but he still held it for the picture and 1596 01:00:49,589 --> 01:00:48,799 this is a you know years later video 1597 01:00:51,589 --> 01:00:49,599 right 1598 01:00:52,789 --> 01:00:51,599 um and yeah there was a story about how 1599 01:00:55,670 --> 01:00:52,799 he took a piece home 1600 01:00:56,230 --> 01:00:55,680 to his kids to his kid or his son or his 1601 01:00:57,990 --> 01:00:56,240 daughter 1602 01:00:59,990 --> 01:00:58,000 and showed him how you can like wrinkle 1603 01:01:01,510 --> 01:01:00,000 it and it folds and it opens back up and 1604 01:01:02,630 --> 01:01:01,520 whatever and it's on you can't break it 1605 01:01:04,630 --> 01:01:02,640 you can't burn it 1606 01:01:06,390 --> 01:01:04,640 stuff like that right right so yeah 1607 01:01:07,990 --> 01:01:06,400 those are the classic story yeah those 1608 01:01:08,870 --> 01:01:08,000 are the classic stories that you would 1609 01:01:11,510 --> 01:01:08,880 have thought 1610 01:01:12,230 --> 01:01:11,520 everyone would want to know about right 1611 01:01:14,309 --> 01:01:12,240 exactly 1612 01:01:16,390 --> 01:01:14,319 so you start off with a little of that 1613 01:01:18,950 --> 01:01:16,400 you give them a little taste of roswell 1614 01:01:19,910 --> 01:01:18,960 then you creep into the 50s with um you 1615 01:01:21,950 --> 01:01:19,920 know 1616 01:01:23,349 --> 01:01:21,960 i would say the beginning of 1617 01:01:26,549 --> 01:01:23,359 disinformation 1618 01:01:27,750 --> 01:01:26,559 uh you know media you know not media but 1619 01:01:29,750 --> 01:01:27,760 you know what i'm trying to say like 1620 01:01:31,190 --> 01:01:29,760 that basically um how would you say that 1621 01:01:34,230 --> 01:01:31,200 mind control 1622 01:01:35,510 --> 01:01:34,240 um but a way to say it without saying it 1623 01:01:36,870 --> 01:01:35,520 too crazy like what would you call it 1624 01:01:37,109 --> 01:01:36,880 brainwashing there we go i'm trying to 1625 01:01:39,910 --> 01:01:37,119 look 1626 01:01:41,670 --> 01:01:39,920 at words here it's been been three years 1627 01:01:44,549 --> 01:01:41,680 but yeah so like brainwashing 1628 01:01:45,829 --> 01:01:44,559 mind control you know repetitive um like 1629 01:01:48,230 --> 01:01:45,839 you could say lies 1630 01:01:50,710 --> 01:01:48,240 i guess repetitive lies and just just 1631 01:01:52,230 --> 01:01:50,720 that disinformation it started right 1632 01:01:55,190 --> 01:01:52,240 around then basically as soon as they 1633 01:01:57,109 --> 01:01:55,200 were able to start putting tvs 1634 01:01:59,190 --> 01:01:57,119 into people's houses in my opinion is 1635 01:01:59,829 --> 01:01:59,200 when the and radios i guess and stuff 1636 01:02:01,510 --> 01:01:59,839 like that 1637 01:02:02,950 --> 01:02:01,520 is when it started right what you're 1638 01:02:05,910 --> 01:02:02,960 hearing on the radio 1639 01:02:07,270 --> 01:02:05,920 may not be what's really going on but 1640 01:02:08,309 --> 01:02:07,280 you're gonna believe it is if you hear 1641 01:02:10,150 --> 01:02:08,319 it every day 1642 01:02:11,349 --> 01:02:10,160 right what you see on tv might not be 1643 01:02:13,270 --> 01:02:11,359 what's going on but 1644 01:02:14,870 --> 01:02:13,280 if you see it every day you're gonna 1645 01:02:16,549 --> 01:02:14,880 start believing it right 1646 01:02:18,230 --> 01:02:16,559 you're almost forced to it's like well 1647 01:02:20,309 --> 01:02:18,240 they're not gonna change a channel so i 1648 01:02:23,750 --> 01:02:20,319 guess that's what's on 1649 01:02:25,829 --> 01:02:23,760 right so and yeah so then 1650 01:02:27,349 --> 01:02:25,839 you fast forward a bit up to like all 1651 01:02:29,190 --> 01:02:27,359 the different projects that were going 1652 01:02:31,589 --> 01:02:29,200 on the underground projects so we 1653 01:02:32,390 --> 01:02:31,599 now we're taking it to uh you know bob 1654 01:02:35,990 --> 01:02:32,400 lazar 1655 01:02:36,789 --> 01:02:36,000 his story about s4 uh you know area 51 1656 01:02:38,710 --> 01:02:36,799 stuff like that 1657 01:02:40,789 --> 01:02:38,720 secret you know underground military 1658 01:02:42,549 --> 01:02:40,799 bases stuff like that 1659 01:02:44,630 --> 01:02:42,559 and you know go up a little bit further 1660 01:02:46,390 --> 01:02:44,640 you know then we're in the 90s and like 1661 01:02:48,069 --> 01:02:46,400 our 80s like there's just there's all 1662 01:02:48,630 --> 01:02:48,079 these different levels of it that you 1663 01:02:49,910 --> 01:02:48,640 know that 1664 01:02:51,910 --> 01:02:49,920 there was a lot of people that 1665 01:02:54,390 --> 01:02:51,920 mysteriously turned up dead uh 1666 01:02:56,309 --> 01:02:54,400 throughout the way and i don't know if 1667 01:02:58,549 --> 01:02:56,319 you've heard of william cooper 1668 01:03:00,390 --> 01:02:58,559 um yeah no i have i actually just 1669 01:03:02,309 --> 01:03:00,400 recently watched something not that long 1670 01:03:04,069 --> 01:03:02,319 ago about him and uh 1671 01:03:05,990 --> 01:03:04,079 i mean he's been right on it's just 1672 01:03:07,750 --> 01:03:06,000 unfortunate that somehow 1673 01:03:09,670 --> 01:03:07,760 you know anytime you're you're on the 1674 01:03:11,670 --> 01:03:09,680 verge of something to release it there 1675 01:03:13,190 --> 01:03:11,680 was like oh there's a tax issue we have 1676 01:03:15,750 --> 01:03:13,200 to go after you for 1677 01:03:16,789 --> 01:03:15,760 you know it's like how how apparent you 1678 01:03:19,349 --> 01:03:16,799 know or 1679 01:03:22,710 --> 01:03:19,359 you know how obvious can you possibly 1680 01:03:26,069 --> 01:03:24,549 right yeah because you know i'm talking 1681 01:03:27,990 --> 01:03:26,079 about because it was what invasion of 1682 01:03:30,549 --> 01:03:28,000 taxes that they were rating him for 1683 01:03:31,510 --> 01:03:30,559 right if was that it oh oh you're saying 1684 01:03:33,589 --> 01:03:31,520 oh you're saying how 1685 01:03:34,870 --> 01:03:33,599 off of that yeah i'm talking about 1686 01:03:39,190 --> 01:03:34,880 cooper yeah 1687 01:03:44,710 --> 01:03:42,630 i'm sorry go ahead yeah no no for sure 1688 01:03:46,230 --> 01:03:44,720 yeah so you're saying how uh 1689 01:03:48,230 --> 01:03:46,240 um how they went and got him for 1690 01:03:49,990 --> 01:03:48,240 something that has nothing to do with 1691 01:03:51,109 --> 01:03:50,000 like you can't go and kill a guy for 1692 01:03:54,789 --> 01:03:51,119 something like that that's what you're 1693 01:03:57,990 --> 01:03:56,789 yeah i know i agree a hundred years no 1694 01:04:00,390 --> 01:03:58,000 no i was just generally saying 1695 01:04:01,589 --> 01:04:00,400 they always you know every time you know 1696 01:04:03,990 --> 01:04:01,599 um 1697 01:04:04,710 --> 01:04:04,000 i mean what was that or even al capone 1698 01:04:07,109 --> 01:04:04,720 at the end 1699 01:04:08,789 --> 01:04:07,119 they got him on tax evasion out of 1700 01:04:10,630 --> 01:04:08,799 everything he's ever done 1701 01:04:12,470 --> 01:04:10,640 you know i mean it's always some taxes 1702 01:04:14,630 --> 01:04:12,480 you know then then cooper 1703 01:04:16,870 --> 01:04:14,640 same thing it was something about uh 1704 01:04:18,309 --> 01:04:16,880 also like either tax evasion or 1705 01:04:20,390 --> 01:04:18,319 something tax related 1706 01:04:22,789 --> 01:04:20,400 you know it's like sorry got to deal 1707 01:04:25,349 --> 01:04:22,799 with you 1708 01:04:26,230 --> 01:04:25,359 right right yeah and that doesn't make 1709 01:04:27,990 --> 01:04:26,240 sense right 1710 01:04:29,510 --> 01:04:28,000 it never it never makes sense when you 1711 01:04:32,150 --> 01:04:29,520 do a little bit of digging 1712 01:04:33,670 --> 01:04:32,160 um there was another guy oh there we go 1713 01:04:35,670 --> 01:04:33,680 uh phil schneider 1714 01:04:37,750 --> 01:04:35,680 i know you know i don't know if you've 1715 01:04:41,430 --> 01:04:37,760 checked out that but he 1716 01:04:44,150 --> 01:04:41,440 died also in in a similar way to um 1717 01:04:45,670 --> 01:04:44,160 uh william cooper right not a similar 1718 01:04:46,309 --> 01:04:45,680 talking cause of death but i'm saying in 1719 01:04:49,670 --> 01:04:46,319 a similar way 1720 01:04:51,829 --> 01:04:49,680 how he's approached by people and 1721 01:04:53,349 --> 01:04:51,839 next you know he's found uh let's say 1722 01:04:53,990 --> 01:04:53,359 you know laying on his living room floor 1723 01:04:55,750 --> 01:04:54,000 with a 1724 01:04:57,430 --> 01:04:55,760 rubber hose wrapped around his neck a 1725 01:04:58,710 --> 01:04:57,440 few times right and they called it 1726 01:05:00,309 --> 01:04:58,720 suicide you know 1727 01:05:02,470 --> 01:05:00,319 and and there were several things that 1728 01:05:04,710 --> 01:05:02,480 they were saying like there was 1729 01:05:06,150 --> 01:05:04,720 things were off that basically would 1730 01:05:08,390 --> 01:05:06,160 prove that it wasn't 1731 01:05:09,670 --> 01:05:08,400 you know it wasn't suicide but you know 1732 01:05:11,109 --> 01:05:09,680 and um 1733 01:05:12,870 --> 01:05:11,119 i don't know it's always gets kind of 1734 01:05:14,870 --> 01:05:12,880 swept under the rug in that way it's 1735 01:05:16,390 --> 01:05:14,880 like oh yeah they killed himself sorry 1736 01:05:18,470 --> 01:05:16,400 okay let's move on and that's 1737 01:05:19,190 --> 01:05:18,480 unfortunate that's very very frustrating 1738 01:05:20,630 --> 01:05:19,200 too 1739 01:05:21,990 --> 01:05:20,640 because especially when you know what 1740 01:05:23,190 --> 01:05:22,000 they were talking about what they were 1741 01:05:26,390 --> 01:05:23,200 covering it just could 1742 01:05:28,710 --> 01:05:26,400 drive somebody mad sometime right 1743 01:05:30,470 --> 01:05:28,720 yeah and when they went in there i heard 1744 01:05:32,630 --> 01:05:30,480 they basically 1745 01:05:34,710 --> 01:05:32,640 grabbed all his stuff you know anything 1746 01:05:36,789 --> 01:05:34,720 that was all his research 1747 01:05:38,390 --> 01:05:36,799 over the years all his you know 1748 01:05:40,309 --> 01:05:38,400 documents uh maybe 1749 01:05:41,990 --> 01:05:40,319 you know recordings who knows uh 1750 01:05:43,670 --> 01:05:42,000 artifacts who knows 1751 01:05:45,190 --> 01:05:43,680 over all the years that he had 1752 01:05:46,870 --> 01:05:45,200 everything he ever had 1753 01:05:48,390 --> 01:05:46,880 that was completely cleaned out of his 1754 01:05:50,870 --> 01:05:48,400 place when uh and so 1755 01:05:52,470 --> 01:05:50,880 you're telling me some guy is gonna take 1756 01:05:54,549 --> 01:05:52,480 all his stuff 1757 01:05:58,230 --> 01:05:54,559 throw it away and then kill himself 1758 01:05:59,589 --> 01:05:58,240 right well i'm glad a lot of videos 1759 01:06:02,309 --> 01:05:59,599 i was just gonna say i'm glad a lot of 1760 01:06:04,309 --> 01:06:02,319 videos that he had made already out 1761 01:06:06,630 --> 01:06:04,319 and so it becomes very clear that you 1762 01:06:08,150 --> 01:06:06,640 know that there was some foul play 1763 01:06:09,910 --> 01:06:08,160 you know because especially on the 1764 01:06:10,549 --> 01:06:09,920 subjects and topics he was hitting on 1765 01:06:13,190 --> 01:06:10,559 because 1766 01:06:14,710 --> 01:06:13,200 uh we're not you know along with aliens 1767 01:06:16,950 --> 01:06:14,720 and everything else they're hiding you 1768 01:06:19,589 --> 01:06:16,960 know government has a lot more to hide 1769 01:06:21,510 --> 01:06:19,599 you don't talk about you know skeletons 1770 01:06:25,829 --> 01:06:21,520 in the closet it's 1771 01:06:31,109 --> 01:06:29,510 right exactly uh just 1772 01:06:32,309 --> 01:06:31,119 hold on a one one quick second i'm sorry 1773 01:06:33,430 --> 01:06:32,319 what do you want me to call you said it 1774 01:06:35,349 --> 01:06:33,440 wasn't crypto so 1775 01:06:36,870 --> 01:06:35,359 can you just give me a name i can call 1776 01:06:40,230 --> 01:06:36,880 you by 1777 01:06:42,549 --> 01:06:40,240 uh no it's cryptozozo but uh my name is 1778 01:06:44,309 --> 01:06:42,559 my real name is elijah okay elijah just 1779 01:06:46,870 --> 01:06:44,319 give me give me one quick second 1780 01:06:47,750 --> 01:06:46,880 i wanted to say to dudley real quick uh 1781 01:06:50,069 --> 01:06:47,760 dudley if you're 1782 01:06:52,069 --> 01:06:50,079 wanting to to speak to me let me know by 1783 01:06:53,589 --> 01:06:52,079 just uh raising your hand so then that 1784 01:06:54,870 --> 01:06:53,599 way i know you're actually waiting and 1785 01:06:59,109 --> 01:06:54,880 not just listening 1786 01:07:01,990 --> 01:06:59,119 uh you know and so then that way um 1787 01:07:03,829 --> 01:07:02,000 i can at least you know keep keep going 1788 01:07:04,150 --> 01:07:03,839 a bit longer with elijah you know and 1789 01:07:06,549 --> 01:07:04,160 then 1790 01:07:09,190 --> 01:07:06,559 uh get to you when it's your turn okay 1791 01:07:11,029 --> 01:07:09,200 i'm sorry elijah go ahead 1792 01:07:13,349 --> 01:07:11,039 that's fine yeah my my real name's 1793 01:07:14,789 --> 01:07:13,359 elijah but i just go by cryptozozo like 1794 01:07:17,510 --> 01:07:14,799 on twitter and stuff 1795 01:07:18,950 --> 01:07:17,520 okay yeah i mean if you wanted me just 1796 01:07:20,309 --> 01:07:18,960 to call you crypto that would have been 1797 01:07:23,750 --> 01:07:20,319 fine too you know i just 1798 01:07:25,270 --> 01:07:23,760 i just wanted to see whatever um 1799 01:07:26,549 --> 01:07:25,280 you know whatever you want me to call 1800 01:07:28,950 --> 01:07:26,559 you because sometimes i don't i don't 1801 01:07:30,950 --> 01:07:28,960 know what people would prefer 1802 01:07:32,870 --> 01:07:30,960 oh yeah no that's fine i appreciate it i 1803 01:07:35,510 --> 01:07:32,880 appreciate you asking yeah cryptozozo is 1804 01:07:37,109 --> 01:07:35,520 fine or just sozo or something or elijah 1805 01:07:39,589 --> 01:07:37,119 whichever whatever rolls off the tongue 1806 01:07:42,150 --> 01:07:39,599 i guess i usually don't quote by 1807 01:07:43,829 --> 01:07:42,160 elijah in public so i guess cryptozozo 1808 01:07:45,510 --> 01:07:43,839 or this is ozo 1809 01:07:47,670 --> 01:07:45,520 right well can i ask you a quick 1810 01:07:48,150 --> 01:07:47,680 question and so i i don't actually don't 1811 01:07:51,430 --> 01:07:48,160 get 1812 01:07:55,109 --> 01:07:51,440 people very much about 1813 01:07:57,029 --> 01:07:55,119 you know um them finding out about 1814 01:07:58,630 --> 01:07:57,039 or your for hub way back when what was 1815 01:08:00,150 --> 01:07:58,640 it about you know 1816 01:08:01,829 --> 01:08:00,160 the different interviews that kind of 1817 01:08:02,950 --> 01:08:01,839 drew you to it it's just the fact that 1818 01:08:04,950 --> 01:08:02,960 you were hearing it 1819 01:08:06,390 --> 01:08:04,960 from the horse's mouth so to say you 1820 01:08:09,510 --> 01:08:06,400 know it was you know 1821 01:08:11,349 --> 01:08:09,520 what made you stick around um 1822 01:08:14,150 --> 01:08:11,359 it was it was the topics i was 1823 01:08:17,030 --> 01:08:14,160 researching i kept finding the videos 1824 01:08:17,669 --> 01:08:17,040 uh related to the topics i was looking 1825 01:08:20,950 --> 01:08:17,679 for 1826 01:08:24,149 --> 01:08:20,960 on on your uh on your youtube channel so 1827 01:08:25,110 --> 01:08:24,159 okay for example um even uh when i was 1828 01:08:27,269 --> 01:08:25,120 looking up uh 1829 01:08:29,110 --> 01:08:27,279 crop circles for example you have a 1830 01:08:29,990 --> 01:08:29,120 video i think her name's barbara but i 1831 01:08:33,430 --> 01:08:30,000 might have got it 1832 01:08:34,709 --> 01:08:33,440 yeah it's barbara lamb okay yeah so i 1833 01:08:36,470 --> 01:08:34,719 remember looking up 1834 01:08:37,990 --> 01:08:36,480 not not just looking at crop circles but 1835 01:08:41,030 --> 01:08:38,000 i told you i went down the rabbit 1836 01:08:43,349 --> 01:08:41,040 hole i uh you know i i went deep so 1837 01:08:45,110 --> 01:08:43,359 uh when i'm down there i'm looking and 1838 01:08:45,990 --> 01:08:45,120 then i got to that video and it was 1839 01:08:47,510 --> 01:08:46,000 literally 1840 01:08:49,110 --> 01:08:47,520 the icing on the cake when i was 1841 01:08:51,510 --> 01:08:49,120 literally looking for something to just 1842 01:08:53,430 --> 01:08:51,520 say okay tell me crop circles are just 1843 01:08:55,829 --> 01:08:53,440 just tell me they're a little bit more 1844 01:08:57,990 --> 01:08:55,839 and and when i watched her video it was 1845 01:09:00,309 --> 01:08:58,000 great to hear about the energy 1846 01:09:02,309 --> 01:09:00,319 uh how she described it as having the 1847 01:09:03,269 --> 01:09:02,319 energy right the energy and the energy 1848 01:09:05,349 --> 01:09:03,279 that's in there 1849 01:09:07,030 --> 01:09:05,359 the healing energy and stuff like that i 1850 01:09:08,630 --> 01:09:07,040 know it's an older video but yeah it was 1851 01:09:10,950 --> 01:09:08,640 stuff like that and it was like 1852 01:09:12,070 --> 01:09:10,960 right well it's information that stands 1853 01:09:14,789 --> 01:09:12,080 true no matter how 1854 01:09:16,309 --> 01:09:14,799 far or you know far ago it was recorded 1855 01:09:18,550 --> 01:09:16,319 i tried to get another gal 1856 01:09:19,430 --> 01:09:18,560 uh nancy talbot she's also very much 1857 01:09:23,430 --> 01:09:19,440 into 1858 01:09:25,189 --> 01:09:23,440 um crop circles and whatnot and 1859 01:09:26,709 --> 01:09:25,199 sometimes you know it's very difficult 1860 01:09:29,430 --> 01:09:26,719 to find 1861 01:09:31,669 --> 01:09:29,440 um someone that's they will always tell 1862 01:09:33,669 --> 01:09:31,679 me something similar that oh i'm kind of 1863 01:09:35,430 --> 01:09:33,679 out of the circuit i don't do interviews 1864 01:09:37,749 --> 01:09:35,440 or speaking anymore and i'm just like 1865 01:09:39,669 --> 01:09:37,759 shoot you know it's like because you 1866 01:09:41,269 --> 01:09:39,679 know here's my opportunity to have them 1867 01:09:43,269 --> 01:09:41,279 on video because a lot of times 1868 01:09:44,950 --> 01:09:43,279 they only written books or was during 1869 01:09:46,390 --> 01:09:44,960 the time where you might maybe hear a 1870 01:09:49,590 --> 01:09:46,400 voice recording of them 1871 01:09:52,229 --> 01:09:49,600 only recently you know where video and 1872 01:09:52,950 --> 01:09:52,239 audio became more prevalent you know via 1873 01:09:54,790 --> 01:09:52,960 youtube 1874 01:09:56,630 --> 01:09:54,800 you know i wanted to get more of those 1875 01:09:57,430 --> 01:09:56,640 people you know on the channel and and 1876 01:09:59,350 --> 01:09:57,440 talk to them 1877 01:10:00,870 --> 01:09:59,360 but unfortunately like i even um i've 1878 01:10:01,510 --> 01:10:00,880 noticed here some people were talking 1879 01:10:05,350 --> 01:10:01,520 about 1880 01:10:06,229 --> 01:10:05,360 um oh i stuck with names today i can't 1881 01:10:09,510 --> 01:10:06,239 remember anything 1882 01:10:11,510 --> 01:10:09,520 um it was paul hellyer he was the 1883 01:10:11,830 --> 01:10:11,520 defense minister of canada i even tried 1884 01:10:15,110 --> 01:10:11,840 to 1885 01:10:18,310 --> 01:10:15,120 over email 1886 01:10:20,310 --> 01:10:18,320 and you know he's out of the the circuit 1887 01:10:21,430 --> 01:10:20,320 so to say and he's just kind of retiring 1888 01:10:23,110 --> 01:10:21,440 and it's not 1889 01:10:25,030 --> 01:10:23,120 doing interviews very much you know i 1890 01:10:27,350 --> 01:10:25,040 really tried everything i could to 1891 01:10:28,790 --> 01:10:27,360 get to talk to him so that you know you 1892 01:10:31,350 --> 01:10:28,800 guys can call in or 1893 01:10:33,030 --> 01:10:31,360 ask questions over chat too but it 1894 01:10:35,110 --> 01:10:33,040 didn't it didn't work out and and 1895 01:10:36,790 --> 01:10:35,120 unfortunately many others you know that 1896 01:10:38,790 --> 01:10:36,800 have been around for quite a bit 1897 01:10:40,149 --> 01:10:38,800 you know now when i'm finally there to 1898 01:10:42,149 --> 01:10:40,159 be able to talk to them they're not 1899 01:10:45,669 --> 01:10:42,159 ready to talk to me or or are not doing 1900 01:10:48,550 --> 01:10:45,679 that anymore so it's unfortunate 1901 01:10:50,310 --> 01:10:48,560 okay yeah um yeah i was gonna touch on a 1902 01:10:51,510 --> 01:10:50,320 few more things but i think uh dudley 1903 01:10:54,070 --> 01:10:51,520 has something to say maybe 1904 01:10:55,590 --> 01:10:54,080 i don't know well oh you know if you can 1905 01:10:57,189 --> 01:10:55,600 maybe just tell me a little bit more and 1906 01:10:58,310 --> 01:10:57,199 then elsewhere should dudley cause you 1907 01:11:00,310 --> 01:10:58,320 know i'll give him 1908 01:11:01,510 --> 01:11:00,320 you know his due time as well so you 1909 01:11:03,270 --> 01:11:01,520 know just uh 1910 01:11:05,510 --> 01:11:03,280 go ahead cover cover your points you 1911 01:11:08,070 --> 01:11:05,520 know and then we'll switch over 1912 01:11:10,229 --> 01:11:08,080 yeah i know for sure um yeah and i 1913 01:11:12,149 --> 01:11:10,239 appreciate your calling 1914 01:11:13,990 --> 01:11:12,159 yeah no problem no i'm just excited to 1915 01:11:14,470 --> 01:11:14,000 be on your show because i didn't know 1916 01:11:16,470 --> 01:11:14,480 you do 1917 01:11:18,950 --> 01:11:16,480 these i'm not too sure you says live 1918 01:11:20,149 --> 01:11:18,960 stream 26 so i guess i've missed 25 of 1919 01:11:23,189 --> 01:11:20,159 them 1920 01:11:25,430 --> 01:11:23,199 but uh you know i just recently 1921 01:11:26,790 --> 01:11:25,440 yeah i do where wednesdays is always 1922 01:11:29,510 --> 01:11:26,800 open lines 1923 01:11:30,630 --> 01:11:29,520 you know and so so anyone could just log 1924 01:11:32,950 --> 01:11:30,640 in like you just did 1925 01:11:33,990 --> 01:11:32,960 on telegram and just raise your hand and 1926 01:11:36,870 --> 01:11:34,000 speak to me 1927 01:11:37,189 --> 01:11:36,880 you know or you know i would read off of 1928 01:11:40,709 --> 01:11:37,199 the 1929 01:11:43,510 --> 01:11:40,719 facebook um 1930 01:11:44,709 --> 01:11:43,520 uh twitter or youtube and so uh 1931 01:11:47,510 --> 01:11:44,719 wednesdays for 1932 01:11:49,270 --> 01:11:47,520 basically everyone uh to just giving 1933 01:11:49,990 --> 01:11:49,280 them a chance to just come out and speak 1934 01:11:52,070 --> 01:11:50,000 you know 1935 01:11:54,390 --> 01:11:52,080 like you did today but then fridays i 1936 01:11:56,870 --> 01:11:54,400 would do an actual guest and i don't 1937 01:11:58,950 --> 01:11:56,880 do as much um interaction with the 1938 01:12:00,790 --> 01:11:58,960 audience other than a q a at the end too 1939 01:12:01,750 --> 01:12:00,800 where again you can call in and then ask 1940 01:12:03,990 --> 01:12:01,760 the question of the 1941 01:12:05,110 --> 01:12:04,000 of the guest yourself you know whoever 1942 01:12:07,750 --> 01:12:05,120 it might be 1943 01:12:09,430 --> 01:12:07,760 and so i like yeah because right now i 1944 01:12:10,550 --> 01:12:09,440 have you know like most of us i got a 1945 01:12:13,189 --> 01:12:10,560 full-time job too 1946 01:12:14,070 --> 01:12:13,199 so there's not that many that i can do 1947 01:12:16,310 --> 01:12:14,080 because i'm gonna 1948 01:12:17,350 --> 01:12:16,320 drive myself crazy plus my family needs 1949 01:12:20,390 --> 01:12:17,360 me too so 1950 01:12:22,229 --> 01:12:20,400 but i'm hoping that the better this does 1951 01:12:23,830 --> 01:12:22,239 that i can then do more of these 1952 01:12:25,270 --> 01:12:23,840 throughout the week and 1953 01:12:26,950 --> 01:12:25,280 but for right now all i can do is 1954 01:12:27,669 --> 01:12:26,960 wednesday and friday and then on 1955 01:12:29,990 --> 01:12:27,679 occasional 1956 01:12:31,510 --> 01:12:30,000 um i did a webcast which is a 1957 01:12:34,390 --> 01:12:31,520 pre-recorded interview 1958 01:12:35,430 --> 01:12:34,400 there's no q a it's just me talking to a 1959 01:12:38,550 --> 01:12:35,440 person over there 1960 01:12:42,229 --> 01:12:38,560 over the over skype and then that gets a 1961 01:12:44,149 --> 01:12:42,239 published education okay 1962 01:12:45,750 --> 01:12:44,159 okay well yeah i thought i guess a few 1963 01:12:46,950 --> 01:12:45,760 more quick things i could throw out here 1964 01:12:48,950 --> 01:12:46,960 then it was just 1965 01:12:51,350 --> 01:12:48,960 uh you know a few more things that you 1966 01:12:54,470 --> 01:12:51,360 know brought me in really tight with 1967 01:12:57,189 --> 01:12:54,480 the whole you know alien uh and ufo uh 1968 01:12:58,790 --> 01:12:57,199 world um and your channel even for 1969 01:13:01,750 --> 01:12:58,800 example which i have to admit 1970 01:13:02,229 --> 01:13:01,760 a ufo hub if i can get it out there is 1971 01:13:07,750 --> 01:13:02,239 the 1972 01:13:09,270 --> 01:13:07,760 quality content like you know and and 1973 01:13:09,830 --> 01:13:09,280 people that come on your show they don't 1974 01:13:12,870 --> 01:13:09,840 mind 1975 01:13:13,669 --> 01:13:12,880 speaking freely and openly and honestly 1976 01:13:16,310 --> 01:13:13,679 and that to me 1977 01:13:17,030 --> 01:13:16,320 is what makes a quality content by the 1978 01:13:20,149 --> 01:13:17,040 way 1979 01:13:22,550 --> 01:13:20,159 um thank you for that appreciate it yes 1980 01:13:23,830 --> 01:13:22,560 uh a few other things that uh brought me 1981 01:13:25,750 --> 01:13:23,840 in i could i could throw out there 1982 01:13:27,430 --> 01:13:25,760 there's a bunch of names i could rattle 1983 01:13:28,470 --> 01:13:27,440 off but like like i said there's there's 1984 01:13:31,750 --> 01:13:28,480 bob lazar 1985 01:13:32,709 --> 01:13:31,760 and uh in his his um his stories about 1986 01:13:35,430 --> 01:13:32,719 s4 1987 01:13:37,430 --> 01:13:35,440 and then there's there's um phil 1988 01:13:39,350 --> 01:13:37,440 schneider and and what he said he went 1989 01:13:42,790 --> 01:13:39,360 through when they tried to dig 1990 01:13:45,270 --> 01:13:42,800 under underground in i think 79 so the 1991 01:13:47,189 --> 01:13:45,280 fire fight of 79 we'll call it 1992 01:13:49,110 --> 01:13:47,199 okay and the funny thing is if you watch 1993 01:13:49,750 --> 01:13:49,120 the bob lazar interviews i actually 1994 01:13:51,510 --> 01:13:49,760 noticed this 1995 01:13:53,189 --> 01:13:51,520 because now you're bringing me back to 1996 01:13:54,950 --> 01:13:53,199 the old me um 1997 01:13:56,229 --> 01:13:54,960 if you actually watch the bob lazar 1998 01:13:57,830 --> 01:13:56,239 interviews there's a 1999 01:13:59,350 --> 01:13:57,840 there's a moment it's i think it's a 2000 01:14:01,270 --> 01:13:59,360 four piece interviews that they have on 2001 01:14:02,709 --> 01:14:01,280 youtube it's like in four sections 2002 01:14:05,030 --> 01:14:02,719 and i think it's in the first or the 2003 01:14:07,669 --> 01:14:05,040 second if you watch um 2004 01:14:08,550 --> 01:14:07,679 he he mentions that basically the phil 2005 01:14:11,590 --> 01:14:08,560 schneider 2006 01:14:13,590 --> 01:14:11,600 fire fight of 79 but he mentions it in a 2007 01:14:15,830 --> 01:14:13,600 different way he says 2008 01:14:17,590 --> 01:14:15,840 there was an incident that took place he 2009 01:14:19,350 --> 01:14:17,600 goes i don't know much about it 2010 01:14:21,590 --> 01:14:19,360 um there was a lot of guys that lost 2011 01:14:23,350 --> 01:14:21,600 their life i heard it was all head shots 2012 01:14:24,709 --> 01:14:23,360 uh green berets and stuff like that and 2013 01:14:26,310 --> 01:14:24,719 he just kind of he didn't know much 2014 01:14:28,470 --> 01:14:26,320 about it he didn't mention phil 2015 01:14:30,390 --> 01:14:28,480 phil schneider or anything right if you 2016 01:14:32,310 --> 01:14:30,400 go and look at bill schneider 2017 01:14:33,510 --> 01:14:32,320 and do a little bit of well i know you 2018 01:14:34,870 --> 01:14:33,520 have but i'm saying like to 2019 01:14:36,550 --> 01:14:34,880 people listening in and or that are 2020 01:14:37,430 --> 01:14:36,560 gonna watch this if you go and research 2021 01:14:40,310 --> 01:14:37,440 bill schneider 2022 01:14:41,430 --> 01:14:40,320 and look at what he says about that 2023 01:14:44,550 --> 01:14:41,440 incident 2024 01:14:46,229 --> 01:14:44,560 it's the exact same story that um uh bob 2025 01:14:47,750 --> 01:14:46,239 lazar is making reference to 2026 01:14:49,510 --> 01:14:47,760 right it's the same story you want to 2027 01:14:51,990 --> 01:14:49,520 talk about head shots and 2028 01:14:52,790 --> 01:14:52,000 and green berets and and black berets or 2029 01:14:54,229 --> 01:14:52,800 whatever it was 2030 01:14:55,990 --> 01:14:54,239 red berets i think it was green berets 2031 01:14:58,870 --> 01:14:56,000 and blackberries 2032 01:14:59,910 --> 01:14:58,880 dying from head shots right like it was 2033 01:15:01,430 --> 01:14:59,920 a crazy moment 2034 01:15:02,950 --> 01:15:01,440 right so it's interesting bring that up 2035 01:15:05,510 --> 01:15:02,960 no i didn't see that i watched 2036 01:15:07,030 --> 01:15:05,520 you know a lot of bob lazar but wow i'm 2037 01:15:08,830 --> 01:15:07,040 going to go back and see if i can find 2038 01:15:12,229 --> 01:15:08,840 that that's pretty cool to know 2039 01:15:14,149 --> 01:15:12,239 yeah corroborating 2040 01:15:15,270 --> 01:15:14,159 each other's story but not not each 2041 01:15:18,390 --> 01:15:15,280 other's but at least 2042 01:15:21,110 --> 01:15:18,400 him corroborating schneider's story 2043 01:15:22,390 --> 01:15:21,120 exactly yeah so by him saying that he 2044 01:15:24,149 --> 01:15:22,400 knows that there was an 2045 01:15:26,950 --> 01:15:24,159 uh at least one incident that he can 2046 01:15:29,669 --> 01:15:26,960 speak of that was a crazy incident 2047 01:15:30,630 --> 01:15:29,679 you know like in 79 where some you know 2048 01:15:33,270 --> 01:15:30,640 green brains 2049 01:15:34,950 --> 01:15:33,280 went in they they sent in uh basically 2050 01:15:36,310 --> 01:15:34,960 what happened they sent in a set of them 2051 01:15:37,990 --> 01:15:36,320 so i'm not too sure how many i think 2052 01:15:40,470 --> 01:15:38,000 maybe 50 or something they all 2053 01:15:41,669 --> 01:15:40,480 died and he was he went down there with 2054 01:15:44,790 --> 01:15:41,679 him because he was the 2055 01:15:48,390 --> 01:15:44,800 the soil analyst right right 2056 01:15:50,550 --> 01:15:48,400 yeah he went down yeah he went down and 2057 01:15:52,550 --> 01:15:50,560 i think another guy came down with him 2058 01:15:54,709 --> 01:15:52,560 with a with a fully automatic and he 2059 01:15:57,750 --> 01:15:54,719 just had his his sidearm 2060 01:15:59,270 --> 01:15:57,760 and he shot at the alien he killed it 2061 01:16:00,550 --> 01:15:59,280 but then there was another alien 2062 01:16:02,550 --> 01:16:00,560 obviously there's not just going to be 2063 01:16:03,830 --> 01:16:02,560 one so he shot at one he said he killed 2064 01:16:05,750 --> 01:16:03,840 it according to him 2065 01:16:07,430 --> 01:16:05,760 and then he went before he could really 2066 01:16:07,830 --> 01:16:07,440 do anything to the other one the other 2067 01:16:10,310 --> 01:16:07,840 one 2068 01:16:11,830 --> 01:16:10,320 basically shot at him you know and then 2069 01:16:13,189 --> 01:16:11,840 the guy that came down with him saved 2070 01:16:14,229 --> 01:16:13,199 him and stuff well you know the story 2071 01:16:15,910 --> 01:16:14,239 obviously but 2072 01:16:17,750 --> 01:16:15,920 we when you when you throw that in with 2073 01:16:18,550 --> 01:16:17,760 what bob lazar's saying who i believe 2074 01:16:20,630 --> 01:16:18,560 bubbles are 2075 01:16:23,110 --> 01:16:20,640 until i die that guy tries his hardest 2076 01:16:24,390 --> 01:16:23,120 to he doesn't know how to lie he 2077 01:16:26,310 --> 01:16:24,400 you know what i mean he's just trying to 2078 01:16:27,750 --> 01:16:26,320 bring it how he brings it you know 2079 01:16:29,750 --> 01:16:27,760 and he doesn't want to be in the public 2080 01:16:31,189 --> 01:16:29,760 eye either you know as much as people 2081 01:16:32,790 --> 01:16:31,199 think you know he's just like just leave 2082 01:16:33,990 --> 01:16:32,800 me alone i would just want to do my 2083 01:16:36,229 --> 01:16:34,000 little chemistry set 2084 01:16:37,590 --> 01:16:36,239 experiments and whatever he's doing and 2085 01:16:40,310 --> 01:16:37,600 he's just doesn't want to be 2086 01:16:42,149 --> 01:16:40,320 part of the the circuit and going out to 2087 01:16:42,950 --> 01:16:42,159 speak in conferences and all that you 2088 01:16:46,310 --> 01:16:42,960 know that's what 2089 01:16:51,510 --> 01:16:46,320 what i find interesting about him 2090 01:16:57,110 --> 01:16:51,520 yeah and uh and yeah so with him 2091 01:17:00,149 --> 01:16:57,120 uh so so he goes with bob it's like that 2092 01:17:03,430 --> 01:17:00,159 and he doesn't want to like 2093 01:17:04,709 --> 01:17:03,440 go out in the public but uh um 2094 01:17:05,750 --> 01:17:04,719 oh yeah that's what i was saying after i 2095 01:17:07,270 --> 01:17:05,760 forgot where i was going with that so 2096 01:17:07,750 --> 01:17:07,280 yeah when you collab those two stories 2097 01:17:10,390 --> 01:17:07,760 together 2098 01:17:12,550 --> 01:17:10,400 that kind of puts solidarity to that and 2099 01:17:13,270 --> 01:17:12,560 then you move along and we move along 2100 01:17:14,790 --> 01:17:13,280 now and 2101 01:17:16,310 --> 01:17:14,800 you could look at a few different things 2102 01:17:18,229 --> 01:17:16,320 you you'd find how the 2103 01:17:20,070 --> 01:17:18,239 illuminati is kind of twisted into it 2104 01:17:22,310 --> 01:17:20,080 just to say it in a weird way 2105 01:17:23,750 --> 01:17:22,320 and governments in the cover-ups right 2106 01:17:26,310 --> 01:17:23,760 so the cover-ups to me 2107 01:17:26,870 --> 01:17:26,320 is like their biggest thing is covering 2108 01:17:28,390 --> 01:17:26,880 this all 2109 01:17:29,910 --> 01:17:28,400 up so even though we're out here talking 2110 01:17:32,950 --> 01:17:29,920 about it openly and 2111 01:17:33,990 --> 01:17:32,960 and honestly somehow they they cover it 2112 01:17:35,669 --> 01:17:34,000 up so it's not gonna 2113 01:17:37,990 --> 01:17:35,679 you know what i mean it's not gonna go 2114 01:17:40,470 --> 01:17:38,000 to the masses but i'll definitely try to 2115 01:17:41,270 --> 01:17:40,480 send it to the masses myself and share 2116 01:17:44,229 --> 01:17:41,280 this video 2117 01:17:45,750 --> 01:17:44,239 and stuff but uh but yeah if you move on 2118 01:17:47,669 --> 01:17:45,760 to like william cooper 2119 01:17:50,709 --> 01:17:47,679 and some of the things he said that he's 2120 01:17:53,350 --> 01:17:50,719 seen and how even at the end he almost 2121 01:17:54,709 --> 01:17:53,360 doubted himself right me and my roommate 2122 01:17:55,110 --> 01:17:54,719 kind of joke around about it you know 2123 01:17:58,470 --> 01:17:55,120 don't 2124 01:17:59,830 --> 01:17:58,480 bill cooper this idea where you're 2125 01:18:01,669 --> 01:17:59,840 almost 2126 01:18:02,870 --> 01:18:01,679 you believe something and then you you 2127 01:18:04,390 --> 01:18:02,880 know you start to 2128 01:18:05,990 --> 01:18:04,400 doubt what you already believe where 2129 01:18:07,590 --> 01:18:06,000 you're like okay maybe 2130 01:18:09,270 --> 01:18:07,600 all the stuff i've been like basically 2131 01:18:10,790 --> 01:18:09,280 what bill cooper said is maybe all the 2132 01:18:11,350 --> 01:18:10,800 stuff i've been reading over the years 2133 01:18:14,630 --> 01:18:11,360 was almost 2134 01:18:15,990 --> 01:18:14,640 planted for me he almost didn't know 2135 01:18:17,590 --> 01:18:16,000 what was going on in the end right 2136 01:18:19,830 --> 01:18:17,600 because it becomes too much 2137 01:18:21,669 --> 01:18:19,840 just to know just to know too much i 2138 01:18:24,790 --> 01:18:21,679 guess you could say it like that 2139 01:18:26,709 --> 01:18:24,800 right yeah i give i i don't know that i 2140 01:18:28,630 --> 01:18:26,719 would you know uh 2141 01:18:30,390 --> 01:18:28,640 well here's the thing when you're 2142 01:18:32,229 --> 01:18:30,400 dealing with government secrets 2143 01:18:34,149 --> 01:18:32,239 it could make you paranoid because you 2144 01:18:35,910 --> 01:18:34,159 know they want their stuff kept 2145 01:18:37,910 --> 01:18:35,920 when it comes to aliens and learning all 2146 01:18:38,870 --> 01:18:37,920 that they show you and teach you it's 2147 01:18:40,229 --> 01:18:38,880 like you don't have to worry about 2148 01:18:41,030 --> 01:18:40,239 because they're not coming after you to 2149 01:18:43,590 --> 01:18:41,040 kill you 2150 01:18:44,630 --> 01:18:43,600 you know and so you know it's like with 2151 01:18:47,110 --> 01:18:44,640 government just like 2152 01:18:47,830 --> 01:18:47,120 how much can i talk you know talk about 2153 01:18:49,990 --> 01:18:47,840 but my 2154 01:18:51,350 --> 01:18:50,000 philosophy have always been just speak 2155 01:18:53,030 --> 01:18:51,360 i'm not i'm not 2156 01:18:54,470 --> 01:18:53,040 never gonna you know shut up about it 2157 01:18:55,270 --> 01:18:54,480 you know it's like whatever i know i'll 2158 01:18:57,430 --> 01:18:55,280 tell you 2159 01:18:59,110 --> 01:18:57,440 you know if if i'm if it's gonna put 2160 01:19:00,709 --> 01:18:59,120 somebody in danger of course not i'll 2161 01:19:01,189 --> 01:19:00,719 keep it to myself you know because i 2162 01:19:03,030 --> 01:19:01,199 don't 2163 01:19:04,790 --> 01:19:03,040 you know i want you know people getting 2164 01:19:07,350 --> 01:19:04,800 inadvertently harmed you know just 2165 01:19:09,030 --> 01:19:07,360 just so that i can be you know out there 2166 01:19:10,630 --> 01:19:09,040 and you know saying the latest and 2167 01:19:13,270 --> 01:19:10,640 greatest and something new 2168 01:19:14,950 --> 01:19:13,280 you know but um yeah it's like you know 2169 01:19:15,910 --> 01:19:14,960 that's the part where i guess it gets 2170 01:19:17,510 --> 01:19:15,920 everybody because 2171 01:19:19,430 --> 01:19:17,520 it makes people paranoid and they're 2172 01:19:21,189 --> 01:19:19,440 just like i can't talk about this 2173 01:19:22,709 --> 01:19:21,199 i don't want to i don't comment i don't 2174 01:19:23,189 --> 01:19:22,719 want to speak about i'm interested but 2175 01:19:25,669 --> 01:19:23,199 you know 2176 01:19:27,350 --> 01:19:25,679 and it's like that what a life to having 2177 01:19:29,030 --> 01:19:27,360 to live it that way it's like i couldn't 2178 01:19:32,149 --> 01:19:29,040 do it 2179 01:19:34,070 --> 01:19:32,159 yeah yeah oh definitely and uh 2180 01:19:35,990 --> 01:19:34,080 you were mentioning paul haley and stuff 2181 01:19:37,990 --> 01:19:36,000 like that and he he's another 2182 01:19:39,189 --> 01:19:38,000 outspoken uh gentleman too i know you 2183 01:19:41,910 --> 01:19:39,199 were saying recently 2184 01:19:42,630 --> 01:19:41,920 um you're having a hard time contacting 2185 01:19:44,790 --> 01:19:42,640 him but you know 2186 01:19:48,070 --> 01:19:44,800 like the list goes on and you could make 2187 01:19:50,630 --> 01:19:48,080 this huge list of things you've 2188 01:19:52,149 --> 01:19:50,640 seen and heard and names and i was going 2189 01:19:52,790 --> 01:19:52,159 to mention throw out another one there 2190 01:19:55,669 --> 01:19:52,800 uh 2191 01:19:57,430 --> 01:19:55,679 stephen greer who's kind of you know 2192 01:20:00,470 --> 01:19:57,440 front lines we could say maybe 2193 01:20:02,870 --> 01:20:00,480 in in the in the fight um with 2194 01:20:04,070 --> 01:20:02,880 you along with you so like stephen greer 2195 01:20:04,950 --> 01:20:04,080 that's another one too you know you 2196 01:20:09,189 --> 01:20:04,960 can't deny 2197 01:20:12,229 --> 01:20:09,199 literally you 2198 01:20:13,910 --> 01:20:12,239 giving it is willing willingly openly 2199 01:20:15,510 --> 01:20:13,920 giving it everything they got like 2200 01:20:18,070 --> 01:20:15,520 you know what i mean you can't stop 2201 01:20:20,070 --> 01:20:18,080 people like that you can try but 2202 01:20:21,590 --> 01:20:20,080 you know try try all you want you know 2203 01:20:22,870 --> 01:20:21,600 there's some things you can't stop when 2204 01:20:26,149 --> 01:20:22,880 people are focused 2205 01:20:28,070 --> 01:20:26,159 and uh determined to help and 2206 01:20:29,350 --> 01:20:28,080 when they're what's driving them is is 2207 01:20:31,110 --> 01:20:29,360 just helping people 2208 01:20:32,470 --> 01:20:31,120 when that's what's driving somebody just 2209 01:20:35,669 --> 01:20:32,480 just just the urge 2210 01:20:37,669 --> 01:20:35,679 to help people just to urge to maybe uh 2211 01:20:39,110 --> 01:20:37,679 you know educate people or make someone 2212 01:20:40,950 --> 01:20:39,120 just you know open their 2213 01:20:42,629 --> 01:20:40,960 mind a little bit more and just just to 2214 01:20:44,310 --> 01:20:42,639 literally help it's literally to help 2215 01:20:44,950 --> 01:20:44,320 somebody and make them a little more 2216 01:20:47,270 --> 01:20:44,960 knowledgeable 2217 01:20:49,189 --> 01:20:47,280 when that's the only thing driving you 2218 01:20:50,310 --> 01:20:49,199 that's so powerful that people don't 2219 01:20:52,629 --> 01:20:50,320 understand people 2220 01:20:53,990 --> 01:20:52,639 you know think about money and all and 2221 01:20:56,310 --> 01:20:54,000 the money you could make here and the 2222 01:20:59,189 --> 01:20:56,320 money there and the cars and the jewelry 2223 01:21:00,390 --> 01:20:59,199 some people will literally give it 2224 01:21:02,310 --> 01:21:00,400 everything they got 2225 01:21:03,990 --> 01:21:02,320 just for what's right you know and 2226 01:21:06,229 --> 01:21:04,000 that's what i like you know 2227 01:21:07,270 --> 01:21:06,239 i like the people that will get go for 2228 01:21:08,950 --> 01:21:07,280 what's right 2229 01:21:11,510 --> 01:21:08,960 well you know there's so many unsung 2230 01:21:13,189 --> 01:21:11,520 heroes um especially like in saint louis 2231 01:21:14,790 --> 01:21:13,199 there was all these groups that 2232 01:21:16,310 --> 01:21:14,800 and you know people that were heading 2233 01:21:18,950 --> 01:21:16,320 those that would 2234 01:21:20,229 --> 01:21:18,960 go out and find a location such as ray 2235 01:21:21,750 --> 01:21:20,239 you know and there's ginger 2236 01:21:23,189 --> 01:21:21,760 you know there's uh uh debbie 2237 01:21:25,110 --> 01:21:23,199 sieglemayer there's all these different 2238 01:21:25,830 --> 01:21:25,120 people in san luis at least just to name 2239 01:21:27,830 --> 01:21:25,840 a few 2240 01:21:29,669 --> 01:21:27,840 where they would just go out they would 2241 01:21:31,590 --> 01:21:29,679 make agreements you know like ray for 2242 01:21:34,390 --> 01:21:31,600 example would make an agreement with 2243 01:21:35,830 --> 01:21:34,400 the uh with the bowling alley on sunset 2244 01:21:37,990 --> 01:21:35,840 avenue in san luis 2245 01:21:39,590 --> 01:21:38,000 and so he couldn't pay him but he said 2246 01:21:42,070 --> 01:21:39,600 if you allow me to use this room 2247 01:21:42,709 --> 01:21:42,080 everyone coming will buy a few food you 2248 01:21:44,470 --> 01:21:42,719 know 2249 01:21:46,870 --> 01:21:44,480 and so he always encourages people go 2250 01:21:48,470 --> 01:21:46,880 buy the food from from the bowling place 2251 01:21:50,310 --> 01:21:48,480 and so the bowling place let him use 2252 01:21:51,510 --> 01:21:50,320 this huge room so we all could meet 2253 01:21:53,510 --> 01:21:51,520 you know same thing with different 2254 01:21:55,350 --> 01:21:53,520 restaurants for the mufan meeting 2255 01:21:57,030 --> 01:21:55,360 you know and then of course uh ginger 2256 01:21:58,229 --> 01:21:57,040 kind of did the similar deal with the 2257 01:21:59,910 --> 01:21:58,239 coasties for 2258 01:22:01,590 --> 01:21:59,920 you know same thing at the place saying 2259 01:22:03,030 --> 01:22:01,600 hey i'll bring in more people order your 2260 01:22:05,830 --> 01:22:03,040 food if we could use that 2261 01:22:07,430 --> 01:22:05,840 and so nobody knows you know well maybe 2262 01:22:10,310 --> 01:22:07,440 except for ray and maybe debbie 2263 01:22:11,669 --> 01:22:10,320 but you know most people like that most 2264 01:22:13,430 --> 01:22:11,679 people don't know about them 2265 01:22:15,590 --> 01:22:13,440 that create these communities that 2266 01:22:16,790 --> 01:22:15,600 create this channel this outlet for 2267 01:22:19,189 --> 01:22:16,800 others to come and 2268 01:22:20,149 --> 01:22:19,199 just say uh i've been abducted or hey 2269 01:22:21,669 --> 01:22:20,159 i'm dealing with 2270 01:22:23,430 --> 01:22:21,679 this stuff that i don't know how to deal 2271 01:22:25,110 --> 01:22:23,440 with you know you know hey i need some 2272 01:22:28,629 --> 01:22:25,120 help you know and it happens 2273 01:22:30,629 --> 01:22:28,639 so small and so on this local level that 2274 01:22:32,629 --> 01:22:30,639 most people in all those cities and 2275 01:22:34,070 --> 01:22:32,639 around the world nobody will ever find 2276 01:22:36,070 --> 01:22:34,080 out about but there's so many of them 2277 01:22:38,149 --> 01:22:36,080 out there 2278 01:22:39,110 --> 01:22:38,159 right right you're like you're like the 2279 01:22:40,950 --> 01:22:39,120 art bell 2280 01:22:43,590 --> 01:22:40,960 like with this podcast you're like the 2281 01:22:46,310 --> 01:22:43,600 art bell of 2021. 2282 01:22:48,070 --> 01:22:46,320 oh man that that is a huge you know 2283 01:22:51,350 --> 01:22:48,080 thank you i love art now but 2284 01:22:53,350 --> 01:22:51,360 yeah i i i have huge 2285 01:22:54,950 --> 01:22:53,360 there's still huge shoes to fill right 2286 01:22:56,870 --> 01:22:54,960 there 2287 01:22:58,550 --> 01:22:56,880 hey just doing it like this like you 2288 01:22:59,189 --> 01:22:58,560 said having people call in and they 2289 01:23:01,510 --> 01:22:59,199 could you know 2290 01:23:03,430 --> 01:23:01,520 say how they've been abducted and stuff 2291 01:23:03,910 --> 01:23:03,440 like that's that i think that's missing 2292 01:23:07,110 --> 01:23:03,920 that's 2293 01:23:10,149 --> 01:23:07,120 definitely but i think it's uh 2294 01:23:12,390 --> 01:23:10,159 trying to um not necessarily i don't 2295 01:23:14,709 --> 01:23:12,400 know if normalize is the right word but 2296 01:23:15,590 --> 01:23:14,719 people are having experiences you know 2297 01:23:18,229 --> 01:23:15,600 and and 2298 01:23:19,270 --> 01:23:18,239 some you know they can speak well and 2299 01:23:21,350 --> 01:23:19,280 they can express them 2300 01:23:23,270 --> 01:23:21,360 others have difficulties you know and 2301 01:23:24,950 --> 01:23:23,280 it's about that patience about just okay 2302 01:23:26,709 --> 01:23:24,960 hear them out what do they have to say 2303 01:23:28,310 --> 01:23:26,719 you know that's what it's about you know 2304 01:23:30,950 --> 01:23:28,320 and and then not only that 2305 01:23:33,350 --> 01:23:30,960 for someone who's maybe toying with the 2306 01:23:34,070 --> 01:23:33,360 idea to i want to look into ufos but i 2307 01:23:35,910 --> 01:23:34,080 don't want everyone 2308 01:23:37,510 --> 01:23:35,920 else knowing that i'm doing so this 2309 01:23:38,229 --> 01:23:37,520 would be kind of the guilty pleasure to 2310 01:23:40,470 --> 01:23:38,239 be like oh 2311 01:23:42,390 --> 01:23:40,480 i can tune in here nobody will ever know 2312 01:23:46,830 --> 01:23:42,400 and i'll delete my history later 2313 01:23:51,030 --> 01:23:49,750 yeah okay all right well elijah well 2314 01:23:53,430 --> 01:23:51,040 thank you very much i hope 2315 01:23:55,350 --> 01:23:53,440 you know you tune in again sometime and 2316 01:23:55,910 --> 01:23:55,360 uh i appreciate you logging in this time 2317 01:23:58,229 --> 01:23:55,920 around 2318 01:23:59,110 --> 01:23:58,239 so i'm glad we got to connect so thanks 2319 01:24:01,189 --> 01:23:59,120 very much 2320 01:24:02,709 --> 01:24:01,199 yeah definitely i'm gonna try to make 2321 01:24:04,470 --> 01:24:02,719 sure i can 2322 01:24:05,830 --> 01:24:04,480 make an appearance maybe on wednesdays 2323 01:24:07,590 --> 01:24:05,840 or something like that i'll try to make 2324 01:24:09,270 --> 01:24:07,600 it my thing so i can show up and we can 2325 01:24:11,910 --> 01:24:09,280 and we can chat 2326 01:24:12,790 --> 01:24:11,920 yeah please do you know and uh yeah it's 2327 01:24:15,910 --> 01:24:12,800 always 2328 01:24:16,950 --> 01:24:15,920 available so uh even even for q and a on 2329 01:24:18,550 --> 01:24:16,960 fridays i know 2330 01:24:19,990 --> 01:24:18,560 you know other things come up and 2331 01:24:22,070 --> 01:24:20,000 everyone else has a you know 2332 01:24:23,910 --> 01:24:22,080 has their own personal life but you can 2333 01:24:26,390 --> 01:24:23,920 also log into telegram 2334 01:24:27,910 --> 01:24:26,400 and everyone else watching too to just 2335 01:24:28,709 --> 01:24:27,920 if you want to ask questions directly 2336 01:24:30,149 --> 01:24:28,719 instead of 2337 01:24:32,149 --> 01:24:30,159 writing them down in the message and 2338 01:24:33,430 --> 01:24:32,159 then me having to relay it so he'll give 2339 01:24:36,950 --> 01:24:33,440 an opportunity to 2340 01:24:38,790 --> 01:24:36,960 in that way okay well thank you again 2341 01:24:40,070 --> 01:24:38,800 um you know you have a good you know 2342 01:24:45,430 --> 01:24:40,080 have a good evening and 2343 01:24:49,350 --> 01:24:45,440 so i'll switch over to dudley thank you 2344 01:24:51,830 --> 01:24:49,360 uh dudley you are uh unmuted in my end 2345 01:24:55,030 --> 01:24:51,840 i mute yourself on years please and then 2346 01:25:01,910 --> 01:24:59,030 hi oh awesome how are you 2347 01:25:02,629 --> 01:25:01,920 good thank you well i'm sorry uh we 2348 01:25:04,470 --> 01:25:02,639 couldn't 2349 01:25:05,750 --> 01:25:04,480 talk very much last time because i had a 2350 01:25:07,750 --> 01:25:05,760 guest on but 2351 01:25:08,950 --> 01:25:07,760 i'm glad you were able to connect today 2352 01:25:11,189 --> 01:25:08,960 and so there's 2353 01:25:13,910 --> 01:25:11,199 a lot more time to hear you out if you 2354 01:25:17,430 --> 01:25:13,920 would like to share your story 2355 01:25:18,629 --> 01:25:17,440 all right cool um well i have a few 2356 01:25:22,229 --> 01:25:18,639 things that i'd like to 2357 01:25:25,430 --> 01:25:22,239 bring up i experienced uh 2358 01:25:28,870 --> 01:25:25,440 a lot of things growing up so 2359 01:25:33,030 --> 01:25:31,189 all right okay i remember this one 2360 01:25:33,830 --> 01:25:33,040 incident it was uh me and a couple 2361 01:25:37,110 --> 01:25:33,840 friends 2362 01:25:40,709 --> 01:25:37,120 well me and a friend uh we were 2363 01:25:42,950 --> 01:25:40,719 sitting on the porch in my house and um 2364 01:25:45,669 --> 01:25:42,960 it was actually three of us one of them 2365 01:25:48,790 --> 01:25:45,679 or one of my friends was in the kitchen 2366 01:25:51,990 --> 01:25:48,800 um i was on a porch with another buddy 2367 01:25:55,030 --> 01:25:52,000 we were just talking shooting the breeze 2368 01:25:58,790 --> 01:25:55,040 and um all of a sudden 2369 01:26:02,629 --> 01:25:58,800 he looked up and he just kept on saying 2370 01:26:07,990 --> 01:26:05,750 i'm like what so without 2371 01:26:10,550 --> 01:26:08,000 him saying anything else i like followed 2372 01:26:12,390 --> 01:26:10,560 his eyes to see what he was looking at 2373 01:26:14,310 --> 01:26:12,400 and when he looked up when i looked up 2374 01:26:23,110 --> 01:26:14,320 to see what he's looking at i saw this 2375 01:26:25,750 --> 01:26:23,120 giant orange i'm sorry you said giant 2376 01:26:28,790 --> 01:26:25,760 orange and then you went mute 2377 01:26:30,390 --> 01:26:28,800 i'm sorry it was a giant orange orb oh 2378 01:26:39,590 --> 01:26:30,400 okay 2379 01:26:39,600 --> 01:26:44,470 um dudley you're muted again 2380 01:26:49,110 --> 01:26:46,149 i can't i cannot hear you you have to 2381 01:26:51,750 --> 01:26:49,120 unmute yourself on your end 2382 01:26:53,590 --> 01:26:51,760 i apologize that's okay uh what was the 2383 01:26:55,430 --> 01:26:53,600 last thing you heard 2384 01:26:56,950 --> 01:26:55,440 uh you said you you your friend was 2385 01:26:58,310 --> 01:26:56,960 calling your name said 2386 01:27:00,470 --> 01:26:58,320 and there was a i'm sorry you said 2387 01:27:02,950 --> 01:27:00,480 orange orb 2388 01:27:03,990 --> 01:27:02,960 yeah yeah okay so i looked up and it was 2389 01:27:06,709 --> 01:27:04,000 a giant orange 2390 01:27:07,830 --> 01:27:06,719 orb in this guy and the thing was moving 2391 01:27:09,990 --> 01:27:07,840 really slow 2392 01:27:11,590 --> 01:27:10,000 and then i moved behind and went behind 2393 01:27:13,830 --> 01:27:11,600 some trees 2394 01:27:15,750 --> 01:27:13,840 and we just sat there looking at each 2395 01:27:17,270 --> 01:27:15,760 other and we both tried to convince my 2396 01:27:18,390 --> 01:27:17,280 friend in the kitchen this is what we 2397 01:27:21,189 --> 01:27:18,400 saw 2398 01:27:22,950 --> 01:27:21,199 and he believed us but you know we could 2399 01:27:25,990 --> 01:27:22,960 tell by looking on his face dude 2400 01:27:27,750 --> 01:27:26,000 he was kind of skeptical but um there 2401 01:27:29,510 --> 01:27:27,760 was a really frustrating moment for me 2402 01:27:30,229 --> 01:27:29,520 because you know he was my best friend i 2403 01:27:33,350 --> 01:27:30,239 really want him 2404 01:27:35,030 --> 01:27:33,360 wanting him to see it um but please 2405 01:27:36,470 --> 01:27:35,040 speak up a little bit if you can 2406 01:27:38,550 --> 01:27:36,480 you're getting quieter just speak up 2407 01:27:42,070 --> 01:27:38,560 just a little bit please 2408 01:27:45,830 --> 01:27:42,080 oh i apologize all right um another time 2409 01:27:49,430 --> 01:27:45,840 um i was buff 2410 01:27:53,270 --> 01:27:49,440 in the house um 2411 01:27:59,590 --> 01:27:53,280 i i just sat down in my bedroom 2412 01:28:04,550 --> 01:28:02,709 uh dudley you're muted again you know 2413 01:28:06,229 --> 01:28:04,560 are you holding the button down because 2414 01:28:08,229 --> 01:28:06,239 you i think you can just tap it and 2415 01:28:11,750 --> 01:28:08,239 i'll mute you and then you don't have to 2416 01:28:15,030 --> 01:28:14,149 because if you hold it down and if your 2417 01:28:17,590 --> 01:28:15,040 finger slipped 2418 01:28:18,550 --> 01:28:17,600 it you know it might mute you again 2419 01:28:20,470 --> 01:28:18,560 because all i heard 2420 01:28:22,790 --> 01:28:20,480 uh you're muted to me now and the last 2421 01:28:26,870 --> 01:28:22,800 thing i heard from you was um 2422 01:28:29,990 --> 01:28:26,880 uh you were in your room okay so 2423 01:28:30,950 --> 01:28:30,000 all right so um another situation um i 2424 01:28:34,790 --> 01:28:30,960 was 2425 01:28:36,709 --> 01:28:34,800 around the house 2426 01:28:38,229 --> 01:28:36,719 and i just decided to sit down i was 2427 01:28:41,510 --> 01:28:38,239 bored 2428 01:28:44,550 --> 01:28:41,520 sat on the bed um next thing you know 2429 01:28:47,350 --> 01:28:44,560 my whole entire body started vibrating 2430 01:28:49,189 --> 01:28:47,360 i got numb i couldn't move couldn't 2431 01:28:52,229 --> 01:28:49,199 speak 2432 01:28:56,470 --> 01:28:52,239 um next thing you know 2433 01:28:58,790 --> 01:28:56,480 like um i'm like surrounded 2434 01:28:59,750 --> 01:28:58,800 by like a bunch of this is gonna sound 2435 01:29:02,870 --> 01:28:59,760 crazy but 2436 01:29:06,070 --> 01:29:02,880 i'm surrounded by a bunch of like little 2437 01:29:08,790 --> 01:29:06,080 men little aliens and um you know how 2438 01:29:11,270 --> 01:29:08,800 some people describe them as gray 2439 01:29:12,709 --> 01:29:11,280 they don't look to me they didn't look 2440 01:29:15,830 --> 01:29:12,719 so much gray they look 2441 01:29:19,430 --> 01:29:15,840 more of like a tan or like a beige 2442 01:29:23,110 --> 01:29:19,440 color and they look kind of friendly 2443 01:29:27,270 --> 01:29:23,120 they didn't look uh uh 2444 01:29:30,550 --> 01:29:27,280 uh didn't look uh evil to me at all but 2445 01:29:33,030 --> 01:29:30,560 um i 2446 01:29:33,830 --> 01:29:33,040 still didn't trust them for some reason 2447 01:29:36,149 --> 01:29:33,840 um 2448 01:29:37,030 --> 01:29:36,159 i looked at one of them and i just 2449 01:29:39,990 --> 01:29:37,040 remember saying 2450 01:29:41,750 --> 01:29:40,000 i'll kept on saying to it over and over 2451 01:29:45,430 --> 01:29:41,760 remind me i'm not dreaming 2452 01:29:48,709 --> 01:29:45,440 remind me that this is not a dream 2453 01:29:52,070 --> 01:29:48,719 and it just looked at me it just 2454 01:29:55,189 --> 01:29:52,080 with no expression in his face 2455 01:29:58,229 --> 01:29:55,199 no it was just blank like 2456 01:30:01,189 --> 01:29:58,239 like i was talking to a wall and 2457 01:30:03,590 --> 01:30:01,199 next thing you know i'm i'm back in the 2458 01:30:07,350 --> 01:30:03,600 same position i was sitting in 2459 01:30:09,270 --> 01:30:07,360 and my my body's still vibrating i could 2460 01:30:12,229 --> 01:30:09,280 feel it wearing off 2461 01:30:13,510 --> 01:30:12,239 and that was one situation i told you 2462 01:30:16,950 --> 01:30:13,520 about the situation 2463 01:30:21,830 --> 01:30:20,629 um i was with a bunch of friends 2464 01:30:23,669 --> 01:30:21,840 was that the being where he was 2465 01:30:26,629 --> 01:30:23,679 approaching you is that 2466 01:30:27,110 --> 01:30:26,639 my servant okay yeah please retell it 2467 01:30:28,870 --> 01:30:27,120 again 2468 01:30:32,070 --> 01:30:28,880 i'm sorry i don't remember exactly i had 2469 01:30:35,189 --> 01:30:32,080 too many things going on at that time 2470 01:30:38,550 --> 01:30:35,199 yeah so that was a little more recent 2471 01:30:42,149 --> 01:30:38,560 um okay 2472 01:30:45,990 --> 01:30:42,159 um i remember 2473 01:30:48,950 --> 01:30:46,000 um sitting down again 2474 01:30:51,430 --> 01:30:48,960 and like i had like a basically an 2475 01:30:55,910 --> 01:30:51,440 out-of-body experience 2476 01:30:58,470 --> 01:30:55,920 um my body's to the left of me 2477 01:31:00,950 --> 01:30:58,480 and i remember the feeling of being 2478 01:31:03,910 --> 01:31:00,960 afraid to look at my body 2479 01:31:06,310 --> 01:31:03,920 because the the idea of knowing that my 2480 01:31:06,709 --> 01:31:06,320 body is there was terrifying to me you 2481 01:31:10,310 --> 01:31:06,719 know 2482 01:31:12,629 --> 01:31:10,320 so um but 2483 01:31:14,070 --> 01:31:12,639 i'm used to like lucid dreaming and 2484 01:31:17,110 --> 01:31:14,080 stuff like that 2485 01:31:20,629 --> 01:31:17,120 i've been doing ever since i was young 2486 01:31:22,950 --> 01:31:20,639 um so i don't know i 2487 01:31:24,870 --> 01:31:22,960 i went up to the window and i saw a 2488 01:31:27,990 --> 01:31:24,880 black cat 2489 01:31:29,910 --> 01:31:28,000 um it was uh it was looking for some uh 2490 01:31:31,669 --> 01:31:29,920 for an animal or like there's a bunch of 2491 01:31:32,790 --> 01:31:31,679 little chipmunk holes in the back of my 2492 01:31:36,390 --> 01:31:32,800 house 2493 01:31:39,430 --> 01:31:36,400 and i guess it was uh looking for one 2494 01:31:41,830 --> 01:31:39,440 and i don't know why i did it but i 2495 01:31:46,229 --> 01:31:41,840 decided to growl at it 2496 01:31:48,550 --> 01:31:46,239 which is weird um i decided to growl it 2497 01:31:51,030 --> 01:31:48,560 and it looked up at me and it started 2498 01:31:53,030 --> 01:31:51,040 walking towards me 2499 01:31:55,270 --> 01:31:53,040 and as it walked towards me it grew in 2500 01:31:58,550 --> 01:31:55,280 size it got bigger 2501 01:32:01,830 --> 01:31:58,560 then i went from a cat 2502 01:32:03,189 --> 01:32:01,840 to like a panther type of thing like a 2503 01:32:07,430 --> 01:32:03,199 black panther type of thing 2504 01:32:11,189 --> 01:32:07,440 to like half human half cat 2505 01:32:12,870 --> 01:32:11,199 and i don't know why i decided to lunge 2506 01:32:16,310 --> 01:32:12,880 at it 2507 01:32:19,110 --> 01:32:16,320 because um my my windows ground level 2508 01:32:20,629 --> 01:32:19,120 you know so i lunged at it my windows 2509 01:32:24,149 --> 01:32:20,639 cracked open too 2510 01:32:24,790 --> 01:32:24,159 so i lunged at it and as soon as my 2511 01:32:28,550 --> 01:32:24,800 hands 2512 01:32:29,830 --> 01:32:28,560 made contact with it my body went 2513 01:32:32,550 --> 01:32:29,840 completely numb again 2514 01:32:34,149 --> 01:32:32,560 i couldn't move i couldn't scream i 2515 01:32:37,430 --> 01:32:34,159 couldn't yell 2516 01:32:38,310 --> 01:32:37,440 i couldn't do anything but i just 2517 01:32:41,430 --> 01:32:38,320 remember 2518 01:32:44,470 --> 01:32:41,440 a taste of like metallic 2519 01:32:46,870 --> 01:32:44,480 in my mouth and and 2520 01:32:47,990 --> 01:32:46,880 it it was like being electrocuted it's 2521 01:32:53,270 --> 01:32:48,000 like you can't move 2522 01:32:56,550 --> 01:32:56,149 so i just i was like yo what am i gonna 2523 01:32:59,990 --> 01:32:56,560 do 2524 01:33:01,270 --> 01:33:00,000 like this is it for me so the only thing 2525 01:33:04,310 --> 01:33:01,280 that i can think of 2526 01:33:07,350 --> 01:33:04,320 is is jesus if i'm gonna die 2527 01:33:07,990 --> 01:33:07,360 like you know like let me get my last 2528 01:33:09,669 --> 01:33:08,000 prayer 2529 01:33:11,590 --> 01:33:09,679 you know so i'm thinking as soon as i 2530 01:33:14,149 --> 01:33:11,600 thought that the thought of christ came 2531 01:33:17,590 --> 01:33:14,159 into my head 2532 01:33:20,149 --> 01:33:17,600 um i just kept on saying his name jesus 2533 01:33:21,590 --> 01:33:20,159 jesus jesus jesus jesus jesus jesus and 2534 01:33:25,910 --> 01:33:21,600 the more i said it 2535 01:33:29,430 --> 01:33:25,920 over and over um in my head 2536 01:33:31,590 --> 01:33:29,440 um i was able to actually speak 2537 01:33:33,270 --> 01:33:31,600 um so i kept on saying it until i was 2538 01:33:35,110 --> 01:33:33,280 actually able to get it out 2539 01:33:36,629 --> 01:33:35,120 and when i when i was able to get it out 2540 01:33:40,310 --> 01:33:36,639 it gave out this 2541 01:33:41,830 --> 01:33:40,320 terrifying scream its mouth opened up 2542 01:33:43,910 --> 01:33:41,840 i can see the side of its mouth the 2543 01:33:47,030 --> 01:33:43,920 detail is crazy 2544 01:33:48,390 --> 01:33:47,040 the detail um and it felt like i was 2545 01:33:50,550 --> 01:33:48,400 like in a spirit world 2546 01:33:51,990 --> 01:33:50,560 everything was black and white it was 2547 01:33:53,350 --> 01:33:52,000 weird it was it was 2548 01:33:55,830 --> 01:33:53,360 very weird and this is not the first 2549 01:33:57,510 --> 01:33:55,840 time i've seen this 2550 01:33:59,270 --> 01:33:57,520 oh well this is the first time i've seen 2551 01:34:04,070 --> 01:33:59,280 that creature but the um 2552 01:34:06,070 --> 01:34:04,080 i i i don't know it's like as 2553 01:34:07,990 --> 01:34:06,080 i don't really know how to put my finger 2554 01:34:10,870 --> 01:34:08,000 on it but um 2555 01:34:13,189 --> 01:34:10,880 to me it's like a spirit room you know 2556 01:34:15,990 --> 01:34:13,199 and i think it has something to do with 2557 01:34:16,310 --> 01:34:16,000 like these ufos and stuff because the 2558 01:34:23,910 --> 01:34:16,320 the 2559 01:34:25,189 --> 01:34:23,920 you can't move you know um you can't 2560 01:34:26,950 --> 01:34:25,199 scream 2561 01:34:28,550 --> 01:34:26,960 they take full advantage of you know me 2562 01:34:31,990 --> 01:34:28,560 it's it's 2563 01:34:41,109 --> 01:34:32,000 terrifying um 2564 01:34:47,189 --> 01:34:44,310 all right um a lucid uh there was one 2565 01:34:51,270 --> 01:34:47,199 time i had a lucid dream 2566 01:34:55,189 --> 01:34:51,280 um i remember 2567 01:34:58,149 --> 01:34:55,199 um hearing a bunch of like 2568 01:34:58,870 --> 01:34:58,159 rumbling i'm like yo what the heck is 2569 01:35:03,350 --> 01:34:58,880 going on 2570 01:35:05,990 --> 01:35:03,360 so i go outside and i see 2571 01:35:08,470 --> 01:35:06,000 billions and billions billions is too 2572 01:35:10,709 --> 01:35:08,480 much millions and millions of plants 2573 01:35:12,470 --> 01:35:10,719 covering the covering the sky here in 2574 01:35:14,390 --> 01:35:12,480 the us 2575 01:35:17,350 --> 01:35:14,400 and on the back of these planes they 2576 01:35:21,910 --> 01:35:17,360 were um swastikas 2577 01:35:25,830 --> 01:35:24,390 um this is it this is all happening 2578 01:35:29,189 --> 01:35:25,840 around the same time 2579 01:35:32,629 --> 01:35:29,199 um the the the time when i saw the 2580 01:35:34,550 --> 01:35:32,639 the cat the spirit creature or whatever 2581 01:35:40,790 --> 01:35:34,560 it was 2582 01:35:44,310 --> 01:35:42,390 like a premonition or something like 2583 01:35:48,149 --> 01:35:44,320 that that's what it felt like 2584 01:35:52,870 --> 01:35:51,189 um i don't i don't 2585 01:35:54,470 --> 01:35:52,880 know i don't know it just felt like 2586 01:35:57,030 --> 01:35:54,480 something biblical man 2587 01:35:57,590 --> 01:35:57,040 all of this to me all of this that's 2588 01:36:00,390 --> 01:35:57,600 going on 2589 01:36:01,189 --> 01:36:00,400 feels biblical it doesn't feel so much 2590 01:36:03,510 --> 01:36:01,199 scientific 2591 01:36:04,629 --> 01:36:03,520 i don't think these aliens or whatever 2592 01:36:07,910 --> 01:36:04,639 they are 2593 01:36:10,790 --> 01:36:07,920 are what they claim to be i think it's 2594 01:36:13,510 --> 01:36:10,800 cut and dry and plain and simple 2595 01:36:15,830 --> 01:36:13,520 they are the same creatures in the bible 2596 01:36:17,510 --> 01:36:15,840 that god speaks about 2597 01:36:19,830 --> 01:36:17,520 the bible says that they're shape 2598 01:36:24,390 --> 01:36:19,840 shifters 2599 01:36:28,390 --> 01:36:24,400 that's what they do the fallen um 2600 01:36:31,669 --> 01:36:28,400 and they like to cause confusion and 2601 01:36:32,470 --> 01:36:31,679 um i believe they came here once this is 2602 01:36:35,430 --> 01:36:32,480 just my 2603 01:36:36,870 --> 01:36:35,440 my my thoughts um and from what i've 2604 01:36:40,390 --> 01:36:36,880 researched 2605 01:36:42,470 --> 01:36:40,400 um i i believe they came 2606 01:36:43,590 --> 01:36:42,480 uh they were here a long time ago they 2607 01:36:46,870 --> 01:36:43,600 were the greek uh 2608 01:36:49,270 --> 01:36:46,880 gods they were the egyptian gods and 2609 01:36:50,229 --> 01:36:49,280 bastet which i researched that after i 2610 01:36:52,470 --> 01:36:50,239 had the um 2611 01:36:53,830 --> 01:36:52,480 altercation i was just like yo let me 2612 01:36:56,390 --> 01:36:53,840 look into this because this is 2613 01:36:58,070 --> 01:36:56,400 freaky i gotta look so i looked into 2614 01:37:00,070 --> 01:36:58,080 that that's it 2615 01:37:01,350 --> 01:37:00,080 and like the storyline is almost the 2616 01:37:04,390 --> 01:37:01,360 same you know 2617 01:37:04,830 --> 01:37:04,400 um this time around they're aliens you 2618 01:37:07,430 --> 01:37:04,840 know 2619 01:37:08,870 --> 01:37:07,440 so all right um dudley can i ask you a 2620 01:37:12,229 --> 01:37:08,880 quick question have you heard of 2621 01:37:14,550 --> 01:37:12,239 l.a marzulli who 2622 01:37:16,229 --> 01:37:14,560 no yeah i did have i did an interview 2623 01:37:19,350 --> 01:37:16,239 with him not that long ago and his 2624 01:37:21,350 --> 01:37:19,360 approach as well was very much the 2625 01:37:23,590 --> 01:37:21,360 biblical alien connection i don't know 2626 01:37:25,270 --> 01:37:23,600 if you might want to look into a messi 2627 01:37:26,870 --> 01:37:25,280 um if you guys kind of on the same 2628 01:37:29,830 --> 01:37:26,880 wavelength regarding that 2629 01:37:31,590 --> 01:37:29,840 i i feel like i could almost tell you 2630 01:37:34,070 --> 01:37:31,600 without a shadow of a doubt 2631 01:37:34,870 --> 01:37:34,080 that's exactly what we're looking at and 2632 01:37:37,830 --> 01:37:34,880 um 2633 01:37:38,310 --> 01:37:37,840 when it comes to like uh government and 2634 01:37:39,910 --> 01:37:38,320 you know 2635 01:37:41,350 --> 01:37:39,920 like i don't know it just seems like 2636 01:37:43,669 --> 01:37:41,360 they're like i don't know i think 2637 01:37:45,830 --> 01:37:43,679 they're working with them 2638 01:37:47,350 --> 01:37:45,840 they're just good people in this world 2639 01:37:49,109 --> 01:37:47,360 there's bad people in this world some 2640 01:37:50,870 --> 01:37:49,119 people believe in god 2641 01:37:53,189 --> 01:37:50,880 some people believe in the devil and 2642 01:37:54,950 --> 01:37:53,199 others don't believe in anything 2643 01:37:56,870 --> 01:37:54,960 but we keep on forgetting about the 2644 01:37:58,870 --> 01:37:56,880 people who 2645 01:38:00,070 --> 01:37:58,880 worship the devil they worship in secret 2646 01:38:03,270 --> 01:38:00,080 that's why we 2647 01:38:05,430 --> 01:38:03,280 forget about that you know and 2648 01:38:06,629 --> 01:38:05,440 i think that they're conjuring up these 2649 01:38:09,590 --> 01:38:06,639 entities 2650 01:38:10,709 --> 01:38:09,600 and they're coming into our world 2651 01:38:13,910 --> 01:38:10,719 through these 2652 01:38:16,149 --> 01:38:13,920 government officials and whoever 2653 01:38:17,109 --> 01:38:16,159 you know um i don't know because i'm not 2654 01:38:20,390 --> 01:38:17,119 doing it so 2655 01:38:22,950 --> 01:38:20,400 i can't really tell you but 2656 01:38:25,109 --> 01:38:22,960 i i i feel that wholeheartedly i can 2657 01:38:28,310 --> 01:38:25,119 almost tell you i know 2658 01:38:31,430 --> 01:38:28,320 you know so right well don't get me 2659 01:38:33,669 --> 01:38:31,440 because uh it's it's it's biblical right 2660 01:38:34,470 --> 01:38:33,679 if you want to know what's going on read 2661 01:38:35,669 --> 01:38:34,480 your bible 2662 01:38:38,550 --> 01:38:35,679 if you want to know how to protect 2663 01:38:41,750 --> 01:38:38,560 yourself read your bible 2664 01:38:42,229 --> 01:38:41,760 it's it's we can call it whatever we 2665 01:38:43,910 --> 01:38:42,239 want 2666 01:38:45,189 --> 01:38:43,920 we've done this already we've been 2667 01:38:46,709 --> 01:38:45,199 through it i felt like we've been 2668 01:38:48,629 --> 01:38:46,719 through this already 2669 01:38:50,310 --> 01:38:48,639 um we have all these pagans you know 2670 01:38:53,990 --> 01:38:50,320 they they they work 2671 01:39:00,149 --> 01:38:57,109 the bible talked about people worshiping 2672 01:39:02,950 --> 01:39:00,159 pagan gods and like you know man like 2673 01:39:03,270 --> 01:39:02,960 so how could you not put the correlation 2674 01:39:34,470 --> 01:39:03,280 i 2675 01:39:36,149 --> 01:39:34,480 actually change the subject but 2676 01:39:37,270 --> 01:39:36,159 okay i know i was just gonna say because 2677 01:39:39,270 --> 01:39:37,280 we would always have these great 2678 01:39:41,350 --> 01:39:39,280 conversations because they would know 2679 01:39:42,790 --> 01:39:41,360 uh scripture more and they would 2680 01:39:45,990 --> 01:39:42,800 reference certain things 2681 01:39:48,229 --> 01:39:46,000 and so you know the the 2682 01:39:49,750 --> 01:39:48,239 the challenging part for me was so in 2683 01:39:52,790 --> 01:39:49,760 the very beginning 2684 01:39:54,070 --> 01:39:52,800 um you know i was you know when i was a 2685 01:39:56,470 --> 01:39:54,080 lot younger i gave up 2686 01:39:57,510 --> 01:39:56,480 religion when i was 15 you know and i 2687 01:39:59,750 --> 01:39:57,520 grew up 2688 01:40:01,030 --> 01:39:59,760 in a muslim family you know and so 2689 01:40:02,149 --> 01:40:01,040 they'll you know they have their 2690 01:40:06,149 --> 01:40:02,159 scripture and 2691 01:40:09,030 --> 01:40:06,159 and and sort of i guess you call them um 2692 01:40:10,149 --> 01:40:09,040 these verses you know that you learn and 2693 01:40:13,990 --> 01:40:10,159 all these other things 2694 01:40:16,070 --> 01:40:14,000 and so um based on my experiences that i 2695 01:40:18,229 --> 01:40:16,080 was having it wasn't matching 2696 01:40:19,350 --> 01:40:18,239 with what i was being told about the 2697 01:40:21,590 --> 01:40:19,360 universe and god 2698 01:40:23,350 --> 01:40:21,600 and all these different things so that's 2699 01:40:25,430 --> 01:40:23,360 not to say that you know someone who has 2700 01:40:26,709 --> 01:40:25,440 their own approach using the bible or 2701 01:40:28,629 --> 01:40:26,719 religion you know that's 2702 01:40:30,470 --> 01:40:28,639 you know obviously perfectly all right 2703 01:40:33,750 --> 01:40:30,480 you know all i wanted to say is 2704 01:40:35,350 --> 01:40:33,760 you know um for me it it wasn't 2705 01:40:37,030 --> 01:40:35,360 get you know i wasn't getting the 2706 01:40:39,750 --> 01:40:37,040 answers that i was looking for 2707 01:40:41,910 --> 01:40:39,760 you know only when i when i it wasn't 2708 01:40:43,830 --> 01:40:41,920 necessarily that i needed to eradicate 2709 01:40:45,430 --> 01:40:43,840 religion out of my life but it was 2710 01:40:46,790 --> 01:40:45,440 simply saying okay it's always here 2711 01:40:48,550 --> 01:40:46,800 it'll always be there 2712 01:40:49,990 --> 01:40:48,560 and i can always reference it you know 2713 01:40:52,149 --> 01:40:50,000 but let me see what else is 2714 01:40:53,910 --> 01:40:52,159 out there and if this is not you know 2715 01:40:55,510 --> 01:40:53,920 making any sense or it's not all right i 2716 01:40:57,830 --> 01:40:55,520 can always go back to that 2717 01:40:59,350 --> 01:40:57,840 you know and you know in my experience i 2718 01:41:02,629 --> 01:40:59,360 never ended up going back 2719 01:41:03,669 --> 01:41:02,639 because the point was i wasn't drawn 2720 01:41:06,390 --> 01:41:03,679 away from god 2721 01:41:06,870 --> 01:41:06,400 i feel like i became closer to god 2722 01:41:09,669 --> 01:41:06,880 because 2723 01:41:11,910 --> 01:41:09,679 now i didn't need a filtering mechanism 2724 01:41:14,709 --> 01:41:11,920 i could just directly tap into 2725 01:41:15,510 --> 01:41:14,719 you know this this source right you're 2726 01:41:18,070 --> 01:41:15,520 supposed to live 2727 01:41:19,750 --> 01:41:18,080 on your own and seek for yourself you 2728 01:41:21,990 --> 01:41:19,760 gotta you have to look for yourself 2729 01:41:23,270 --> 01:41:22,000 you can't let somebody educate you on 2730 01:41:29,990 --> 01:41:23,280 your salvation 2731 01:41:31,270 --> 01:41:30,000 it's yours it's your soul it's we're all 2732 01:41:34,470 --> 01:41:31,280 playing a game here 2733 01:41:35,350 --> 01:41:34,480 we're all on on this on this black and 2734 01:41:39,189 --> 01:41:35,360 white 2735 01:41:40,709 --> 01:41:39,199 game and we got a win 2736 01:41:42,390 --> 01:41:40,719 you know we're all in this rat waste 2737 01:41:46,870 --> 01:41:42,400 there's millions of us that came into 2738 01:41:48,870 --> 01:41:46,880 this world we got broken 2739 01:41:50,470 --> 01:41:48,880 dudley i'm sorry you you muted yourself 2740 01:41:53,510 --> 01:41:50,480 again 2741 01:41:56,470 --> 01:41:53,520 you said we got burst into and then it's 2742 01:42:00,310 --> 01:41:56,480 going to continue yeah all i said we got 2743 01:42:03,109 --> 01:42:00,320 birthed into this world and um 2744 01:42:04,709 --> 01:42:03,119 we're gonna get up uh uh uh we're gonna 2745 01:42:08,790 --> 01:42:04,719 come right back out again 2746 01:42:10,709 --> 01:42:08,800 you know um full circle all right um 2747 01:42:12,870 --> 01:42:10,719 so then we haven't continued having any 2748 01:42:14,550 --> 01:42:12,880 other experiences or was that it for you 2749 01:42:15,430 --> 01:42:14,560 yeah yeah yeah yeah no no there's 2750 01:42:18,870 --> 01:42:15,440 definitely 2751 01:42:22,390 --> 01:42:18,880 more um uh there was another incident 2752 01:42:23,669 --> 01:42:22,400 um i'm sorry i'm just reading a lot 2753 01:42:25,189 --> 01:42:23,679 because i actually wrote some of this 2754 01:42:29,109 --> 01:42:25,199 down 2755 01:42:31,510 --> 01:42:29,119 um yeah there's another incident um 2756 01:42:32,149 --> 01:42:31,520 ah this is uh one of the most dramatic 2757 01:42:37,990 --> 01:42:32,159 ones man 2758 01:42:45,430 --> 01:42:41,189 haitians you know like oh 2759 01:42:50,629 --> 01:42:48,629 dudley are you are you driving maybe uh 2760 01:42:52,070 --> 01:42:50,639 your connection keeps being muted and 2761 01:42:53,350 --> 01:42:52,080 then occasionally when you speak it 2762 01:42:56,790 --> 01:42:53,360 drunk 2763 01:42:58,470 --> 01:42:56,800 what was the last thing you heard uh 2764 01:43:00,390 --> 01:42:58,480 sorry yeah it was my own train of 2765 01:43:02,390 --> 01:43:00,400 thought um you said no i 2766 01:43:03,910 --> 01:43:02,400 definitely had you no you know i only 2767 01:43:05,910 --> 01:43:03,920 heard you said this was definitely the 2768 01:43:07,830 --> 01:43:05,920 most traumatic experience 2769 01:43:09,910 --> 01:43:07,840 and then and then your your connection 2770 01:43:12,470 --> 01:43:09,920 was going in and out and i was trying to 2771 01:43:16,229 --> 01:43:12,480 make sense of what you were saying 2772 01:43:19,830 --> 01:43:16,239 okay um another incident 2773 01:43:21,590 --> 01:43:19,840 where um i'm playing cards with some 2774 01:43:24,149 --> 01:43:21,600 friends 2775 01:43:24,629 --> 01:43:24,159 oh first let me start by saying this i 2776 01:43:29,189 --> 01:43:24,639 have 2777 01:43:36,790 --> 01:43:29,199 a friend of the family who is into 2778 01:43:40,229 --> 01:43:38,629 other family members that are related to 2779 01:43:42,229 --> 01:43:40,239 him are you know like 2780 01:43:44,870 --> 01:43:42,239 masons and whatnot they're involved in 2781 01:43:48,390 --> 01:43:44,880 all types of secrecy and whatnot 2782 01:43:50,830 --> 01:43:48,400 so i remember at around that time i was 2783 01:43:52,070 --> 01:43:50,840 very curious i wanted to learn you know 2784 01:43:55,750 --> 01:43:52,080 because 2785 01:43:58,790 --> 01:43:55,760 you know um i had to experience some 2786 01:44:01,270 --> 01:43:58,800 out of this world uh things i'm like you 2787 01:44:03,990 --> 01:44:01,280 know i gotta get out there and 2788 01:44:05,510 --> 01:44:04,000 and and learn as much as i can you know 2789 01:44:08,629 --> 01:44:05,520 i wanna know 2790 01:44:10,629 --> 01:44:08,639 i want as much knowledge as i can so 2791 01:44:12,790 --> 01:44:10,639 i remember going up to this guy i know 2792 01:44:16,229 --> 01:44:12,800 for a fact what he's into 2793 01:44:18,870 --> 01:44:16,239 my parents used to always tell me no 2794 01:44:19,430 --> 01:44:18,880 watch out for these guys my parents are 2795 01:44:22,170 --> 01:44:19,440 religious 2796 01:44:23,830 --> 01:44:22,180 thank god for that um 2797 01:44:25,750 --> 01:44:23,840 [Music] 2798 01:44:27,510 --> 01:44:25,760 so i remember i came up to him i'm 2799 01:44:29,030 --> 01:44:27,520 telling him like dude like what's 2800 01:44:30,870 --> 01:44:29,040 amazing i want to know what's this i 2801 01:44:32,950 --> 01:44:30,880 want to know what's that you know 2802 01:44:34,310 --> 01:44:32,960 and he was like ah you don't want to 2803 01:44:34,950 --> 01:44:34,320 know you don't want it all you don't 2804 01:44:38,709 --> 01:44:34,960 want to know 2805 01:44:42,870 --> 01:44:40,070 telling them over and over i want to 2806 01:44:43,750 --> 01:44:42,880 know and he told me a little something 2807 01:44:48,550 --> 01:44:43,760 something 2808 01:44:50,070 --> 01:44:48,560 with your soul 2809 01:44:51,910 --> 01:44:50,080 something to do with the jar he was 2810 01:44:53,270 --> 01:44:51,920 being very vague 2811 01:44:55,350 --> 01:44:53,280 he didn't want to tell me a lot it 2812 01:44:58,629 --> 01:44:55,360 wasn't enough for me to go on 2813 01:45:03,750 --> 01:44:58,639 it just made me more curious 2814 01:45:05,990 --> 01:45:03,760 later on that night um 2815 01:45:08,390 --> 01:45:06,000 i'm playing cards with some friends 2816 01:45:11,590 --> 01:45:08,400 joking around 2817 01:45:12,550 --> 01:45:11,600 i i remember cracking a joke i made 2818 01:45:14,070 --> 01:45:12,560 everybody laugh 2819 01:45:16,070 --> 01:45:14,080 and i just kind of sat back because i 2820 01:45:21,750 --> 01:45:16,080 lost the car again 2821 01:45:25,430 --> 01:45:24,390 watching them play and then that same 2822 01:45:28,950 --> 01:45:25,440 feeling 2823 01:45:31,669 --> 01:45:28,960 came over me where my body 2824 01:45:33,030 --> 01:45:31,679 got numb i couldn't move couldn't do 2825 01:45:34,870 --> 01:45:33,040 anything 2826 01:45:36,629 --> 01:45:34,880 i couldn't scream i was trying to yell 2827 01:45:38,390 --> 01:45:36,639 for them to help me but it was like i 2828 01:45:41,109 --> 01:45:38,400 was in a sunken place 2829 01:45:41,669 --> 01:45:41,119 you ever seen the movie get out it was a 2830 01:45:44,950 --> 01:45:41,679 lot like 2831 01:45:48,470 --> 01:45:44,960 yeah um 2832 01:45:50,709 --> 01:45:48,480 so i remember 2833 01:45:52,709 --> 01:45:50,719 the same guy that i was just telling you 2834 01:45:55,750 --> 01:45:52,719 about the family member 2835 01:45:58,229 --> 01:45:55,760 he literally literally oh 2836 01:45:59,910 --> 01:45:58,239 again like everything turned black and 2837 01:46:06,550 --> 01:45:59,920 white 2838 01:46:08,390 --> 01:46:06,560 i couldn't move couldn't scream couldn't 2839 01:46:11,189 --> 01:46:08,400 yell 2840 01:46:12,709 --> 01:46:11,199 and um i don't know it was like i was in 2841 01:46:13,990 --> 01:46:12,719 a black and white movie it was like i 2842 01:46:15,990 --> 01:46:14,000 was in the spirit room 2843 01:46:17,270 --> 01:46:16,000 you know i mean where i could see them i 2844 01:46:19,510 --> 01:46:17,280 could i can hear them 2845 01:46:20,950 --> 01:46:19,520 and they sound really weird when they 2846 01:46:23,990 --> 01:46:20,960 would speak 2847 01:46:26,550 --> 01:46:24,000 when they talk they kind of sound like 2848 01:46:27,990 --> 01:46:26,560 like i was listening to somebody talking 2849 01:46:31,669 --> 01:46:28,000 to someone on the phone 2850 01:46:35,030 --> 01:46:31,679 you know um it sounds 2851 01:46:38,709 --> 01:46:35,040 really like they're underwater kind of 2852 01:46:39,189 --> 01:46:38,719 right so um this guy that i was telling 2853 01:46:43,030 --> 01:46:39,199 you about 2854 01:46:46,070 --> 01:46:43,040 literally appeared right in front of me 2855 01:46:49,270 --> 01:46:46,080 literally he was just staring like 2856 01:46:51,510 --> 01:46:49,280 sitting there staring at me and i'm just 2857 01:46:54,390 --> 01:46:51,520 sitting back i can't move i can't scream 2858 01:46:57,510 --> 01:46:54,400 i can't yell i can't do nothing 2859 01:46:59,109 --> 01:46:57,520 and it was like his spirit was sitting 2860 01:47:00,149 --> 01:46:59,119 there looking at me you know how i was 2861 01:47:03,030 --> 01:47:00,159 telling you 2862 01:47:03,510 --> 01:47:03,040 about how i um came out of body or 2863 01:47:05,830 --> 01:47:03,520 whatever 2864 01:47:07,189 --> 01:47:05,840 i think he was doing the same thing 2865 01:47:09,910 --> 01:47:07,199 spirit walk 2866 01:47:10,950 --> 01:47:09,920 maybe he's involved i don't i don't know 2867 01:47:14,149 --> 01:47:10,960 i don't know the details 2868 01:47:16,070 --> 01:47:14,159 all i can tell you is that i literally 2869 01:47:19,669 --> 01:47:16,080 seen him 2870 01:47:20,629 --> 01:47:19,679 and um i got scared i just kept on 2871 01:47:24,310 --> 01:47:20,639 saying jesus 2872 01:47:28,709 --> 01:47:24,320 jesus jesus help me and he his face 2873 01:47:31,750 --> 01:47:28,719 got angry and he left 2874 01:47:34,149 --> 01:47:31,760 and then i came back and 2875 01:47:35,350 --> 01:47:34,159 i looked at my friend i was like yo you 2876 01:47:37,750 --> 01:47:35,360 didn't see that 2877 01:47:40,149 --> 01:47:37,760 you're like i see what i was like you 2878 01:47:41,830 --> 01:47:40,159 didn't hear me 2879 01:47:43,669 --> 01:47:41,840 they were literally just sitting there 2880 01:47:46,790 --> 01:47:43,679 looking at me like 2881 01:47:48,470 --> 01:47:46,800 nah you know and just kept on playing 2882 01:47:50,229 --> 01:47:48,480 so i didn't say anything else to them 2883 01:47:52,950 --> 01:47:50,239 because i didn't want to seem crazy 2884 01:47:54,390 --> 01:47:52,960 you get what i'm saying yeah but all i 2885 01:47:56,950 --> 01:47:54,400 can really say is thank you 2886 01:47:58,550 --> 01:47:56,960 for having this platform you know it's 2887 01:48:02,070 --> 01:47:58,560 nice to be able to say these things 2888 01:48:02,709 --> 01:48:02,080 and i hope that other people who hear 2889 01:48:05,189 --> 01:48:02,719 this 2890 01:48:05,750 --> 01:48:05,199 well you know it can help them if they 2891 01:48:08,310 --> 01:48:05,760 ever 2892 01:48:11,430 --> 01:48:08,320 get stuck in a situation where they're 2893 01:48:14,470 --> 01:48:11,440 scared and they don't know what to do 2894 01:48:17,430 --> 01:48:14,480 from my experience the name of jesus 2895 01:48:18,790 --> 01:48:17,440 holds weight it holds weight when it 2896 01:48:21,350 --> 01:48:18,800 comes to these creatures 2897 01:48:22,629 --> 01:48:21,360 i don't know why but when you say his 2898 01:48:26,629 --> 01:48:22,639 name 2899 01:48:29,669 --> 01:48:26,639 they it's it's like 2900 01:48:32,149 --> 01:48:29,679 wizard of oz in the witch i'm melting 2901 01:48:36,870 --> 01:48:32,159 i'm melting it's like that 2902 01:48:41,910 --> 01:48:39,910 so i don't know um 2903 01:48:43,669 --> 01:48:41,920 well thank you for sharing that with us 2904 01:48:45,750 --> 01:48:43,679 dudley you know i appreciate it 2905 01:48:47,189 --> 01:48:45,760 you know on this platform you know i've 2906 01:48:48,790 --> 01:48:47,199 obviously all views of 2907 01:48:50,709 --> 01:48:48,800 welcome and i you know welcome your 2908 01:48:52,550 --> 01:48:50,719 perspective as well 2909 01:48:54,870 --> 01:48:52,560 yeah man i can't wait to see you grow 2910 01:48:55,910 --> 01:48:54,880 man um i'll try to help you all ever i 2911 01:48:59,430 --> 01:48:55,920 can 2912 01:49:01,189 --> 01:48:59,440 and i'll continue listening 2913 01:49:02,870 --> 01:49:01,199 oh thank you are you are you are you 2914 01:49:03,350 --> 01:49:02,880 concluding you're you know do you want 2915 01:49:06,470 --> 01:49:03,360 to 2916 01:49:12,149 --> 01:49:06,480 this it 2917 01:49:18,950 --> 01:49:15,189 the other ones are a lot more spiritual 2918 01:49:22,310 --> 01:49:18,960 um like there's another one when i 2919 01:49:25,350 --> 01:49:22,320 i i seen christ i was basically 2920 01:49:26,950 --> 01:49:25,360 laying on his lap i was looking that up 2921 01:49:29,589 --> 01:49:26,960 up at him i think i died 2922 01:49:30,149 --> 01:49:29,599 i don't know i mean what had happened to 2923 01:49:33,430 --> 01:49:30,159 you 2924 01:49:40,830 --> 01:49:33,440 asleep 2925 01:49:47,430 --> 01:49:42,870 and 2926 01:49:51,109 --> 01:49:50,070 are you are you what's causing the mute 2927 01:49:53,990 --> 01:49:51,119 is it because you're 2928 01:49:54,709 --> 01:49:54,000 you're holding to talk or yeah it's my 2929 01:49:59,910 --> 01:49:54,719 cheek 2930 01:50:01,750 --> 01:49:59,920 and it's i can't really hear you that 2931 01:50:03,589 --> 01:50:01,760 well through my speaker so i got it kind 2932 01:50:07,510 --> 01:50:03,599 of close to my face 2933 01:50:10,870 --> 01:50:07,520 okay um um 2934 01:50:14,470 --> 01:50:10,880 so i remember i i just woke up 2935 01:50:16,390 --> 01:50:14,480 and my head was on his um 2936 01:50:18,149 --> 01:50:16,400 looking up i'm looking at him and my 2937 01:50:19,589 --> 01:50:18,159 head was on his lap and i'm looking up 2938 01:50:24,310 --> 01:50:19,599 at his face 2939 01:50:28,310 --> 01:50:24,320 like you know like a child 2940 01:50:31,830 --> 01:50:30,070 can you is there no way you can maybe 2941 01:50:32,870 --> 01:50:31,840 put it on on speakerphone is that 2942 01:50:34,070 --> 01:50:32,880 possible 2943 01:50:36,390 --> 01:50:34,080 yeah that's what i have you on 2944 01:50:38,709 --> 01:50:36,400 speakerphone oh okay 2945 01:50:40,470 --> 01:50:38,719 i didn't hear you that well so i gotta 2946 01:50:42,550 --> 01:50:40,480 keep the phone kind of close to my face 2947 01:50:44,229 --> 01:50:42,560 is it do you mean your speaker or you're 2948 01:50:44,629 --> 01:50:44,239 saying my connection may be a bit low 2949 01:50:47,510 --> 01:50:44,639 for you 2950 01:50:47,910 --> 01:50:47,520 no no no it's it's my speaker like uh 2951 01:50:52,709 --> 01:50:47,920 the 2952 01:50:57,270 --> 01:50:52,719 muffled uh 2953 01:50:59,589 --> 01:50:57,280 the iphone 8 um 2954 01:51:00,550 --> 01:50:59,599 yeah so i remember looking up and i just 2955 01:51:02,790 --> 01:51:00,560 kept on saying 2956 01:51:04,950 --> 01:51:02,800 i'm like i don't want to go back i don't 2957 01:51:07,350 --> 01:51:04,960 want to go back 2958 01:51:09,109 --> 01:51:07,360 like please take saying it over and over 2959 01:51:12,149 --> 01:51:09,119 and he didn't say one word he just 2960 01:51:15,270 --> 01:51:12,159 looked at me he just looked disappointed 2961 01:51:18,470 --> 01:51:15,280 in his face to look at disappointment 2962 01:51:20,470 --> 01:51:18,480 and i just kept on saying to him please 2963 01:51:21,990 --> 01:51:20,480 take me please take me and when i looked 2964 01:51:23,830 --> 01:51:22,000 around i remember looking around a 2965 01:51:27,270 --> 01:51:23,840 little bit 2966 01:51:29,589 --> 01:51:27,280 and what i seen is like 2967 01:51:30,790 --> 01:51:29,599 the weirdest colors kind of like the 2968 01:51:32,310 --> 01:51:30,800 other caller 2969 01:51:34,790 --> 01:51:32,320 what he explained when he was talking 2970 01:51:37,430 --> 01:51:34,800 about like the diamonds 2971 01:51:38,709 --> 01:51:37,440 right the prism of a diamond yeah yeah 2972 01:51:43,189 --> 01:51:38,719 it was weird but 2973 01:51:44,709 --> 01:51:43,199 it had nothing to do with anything um 2974 01:51:46,550 --> 01:51:44,719 it didn't have anything to do with 2975 01:51:48,950 --> 01:51:46,560 anything mechanical 2976 01:51:50,470 --> 01:51:48,960 it was i was looking at foliage i was 2977 01:51:54,390 --> 01:51:50,480 looking at grass 2978 01:51:57,430 --> 01:51:54,400 and flowers now he was sitting on a rock 2979 01:51:58,470 --> 01:51:57,440 and i was sitting on his lap and i look 2980 01:52:00,830 --> 01:51:58,480 around and 2981 01:52:02,950 --> 01:52:00,840 i'm it's like the flowers are 2982 01:52:06,550 --> 01:52:02,960 holographic 2983 01:52:08,790 --> 01:52:06,560 you know right it's like 2984 01:52:10,550 --> 01:52:08,800 colors i've never i can't really say 2985 01:52:13,270 --> 01:52:10,560 colors i've never seen because 2986 01:52:14,830 --> 01:52:13,280 i can't really i really don't know how 2987 01:52:17,589 --> 01:52:14,840 to explain that you know 2988 01:52:19,189 --> 01:52:17,599 it's it was weird and everything 2989 01:52:21,189 --> 01:52:19,199 you generally haven't seen in a maybe 2990 01:52:24,470 --> 01:52:21,199 natural setting 2991 01:52:28,149 --> 01:52:24,480 yeah but it felt way more real 2992 01:52:32,790 --> 01:52:30,709 what i mean we could say when we're here 2993 01:52:35,189 --> 01:52:32,800 on earth like things are real 2994 01:52:37,510 --> 01:52:35,199 um you know everything has a reaction 2995 01:52:45,350 --> 01:52:37,520 you know 2996 01:52:48,950 --> 01:52:45,360 there's rules here 2997 01:52:51,990 --> 01:52:48,960 um there there were really no 2998 01:52:55,270 --> 01:52:52,000 rules but it felt more 2999 01:52:57,189 --> 01:52:55,280 real right like once you experience that 3000 01:52:58,550 --> 01:52:57,199 and you go back like i said i did not 3001 01:53:00,870 --> 01:52:58,560 want to come back 3002 01:53:01,910 --> 01:53:00,880 if that meant death i was ready to die 3003 01:53:05,030 --> 01:53:01,920 right 3004 01:53:11,990 --> 01:53:05,040 it was that serious literally 3005 01:53:14,070 --> 01:53:12,000 so i mean i i i i 3006 01:53:15,030 --> 01:53:14,080 think it's all spiritual man all of this 3007 01:53:16,870 --> 01:53:15,040 is spiritual 3008 01:53:18,870 --> 01:53:16,880 i mean with a little bit of mechanical 3009 01:53:21,109 --> 01:53:18,880 whatever but for the most part it's 3010 01:53:23,270 --> 01:53:21,119 spiritual 3011 01:53:25,750 --> 01:53:23,280 right no i i agree with you based on my 3012 01:53:27,589 --> 01:53:25,760 experiences that's what i found it to be 3013 01:53:29,350 --> 01:53:27,599 even if you want to look at it like this 3014 01:53:31,830 --> 01:53:29,360 like we're organic machines or whatever 3015 01:53:34,149 --> 01:53:31,840 the case it is i mean we belong to him 3016 01:53:35,030 --> 01:53:34,159 we're his organic machines you know what 3017 01:53:38,870 --> 01:53:35,040 i'm saying 3018 01:53:42,790 --> 01:53:38,880 and these uh a sin is like a virus 3019 01:53:45,910 --> 01:53:42,800 in our uh in our um 3020 01:53:47,589 --> 01:53:45,920 yeah it's like a virus um if you just 3021 01:53:49,430 --> 01:53:47,599 look at it like that i mean it makes 3022 01:53:52,830 --> 01:53:49,440 sense also 3023 01:53:58,950 --> 01:53:55,990 yeah um yeah um 3024 01:54:00,790 --> 01:53:58,960 i got some things to handle but um i'm 3025 01:54:02,629 --> 01:54:00,800 definitely gonna be listening 3026 01:54:04,790 --> 01:54:02,639 yeah no i'm done i'm glad we were able 3027 01:54:07,109 --> 01:54:04,800 to connect i appreciate you calling in 3028 01:54:08,870 --> 01:54:07,119 and go ahead i'd like to share a few 3029 01:54:11,910 --> 01:54:08,880 more stories for another time 3030 01:54:13,430 --> 01:54:11,920 sure i can't tell you everything yeah no 3031 01:54:14,709 --> 01:54:13,440 i'm glad we're finally connected i felt 3032 01:54:16,470 --> 01:54:14,719 bad last time i couldn't 3033 01:54:18,070 --> 01:54:16,480 you know i had the guest on i couldn't 3034 01:54:18,550 --> 01:54:18,080 go into it that much but i'm glad you 3035 01:54:21,270 --> 01:54:18,560 called it 3036 01:54:22,550 --> 01:54:21,280 i was i was actually taking her time i 3037 01:54:25,589 --> 01:54:22,560 felt awful 3038 01:54:26,390 --> 01:54:25,599 but i just felt like i had to get it out 3039 01:54:28,070 --> 01:54:26,400 you know what i'm saying 3040 01:54:29,510 --> 01:54:28,080 and like i felt like if i didn't do it 3041 01:54:31,030 --> 01:54:29,520 right then and there 3042 01:54:33,510 --> 01:54:31,040 i probably wouldn't be talking to you 3043 01:54:36,950 --> 01:54:33,520 right now right so that's just how i 3044 01:54:39,669 --> 01:54:36,960 am okay all right well 3045 01:54:39,990 --> 01:54:39,679 uh dudley thanks again i hope you uh 3046 01:54:42,870 --> 01:54:40,000 call 3047 01:54:43,910 --> 01:54:42,880 in again sometime and and we'll chat 3048 01:54:49,189 --> 01:54:43,920 definitely man 3049 01:54:52,310 --> 01:54:50,709 all right dudley thank you very much for 3050 01:54:54,709 --> 01:54:52,320 that story i appreciate it and 3051 01:54:56,390 --> 01:54:54,719 i mean several different stories so let 3052 01:54:59,589 --> 01:54:56,400 me uh catch up on 3053 01:55:02,950 --> 01:54:59,599 on the chat i meant to go back and say 3054 01:55:05,030 --> 01:55:02,960 uh to fab 22 i'm really sorry 3055 01:55:07,350 --> 01:55:05,040 that we couldn't connect your connection 3056 01:55:09,030 --> 01:55:07,360 was really bad i couldn't hear you 3057 01:55:11,189 --> 01:55:09,040 and you sounded like you were far away 3058 01:55:14,790 --> 01:55:11,199 and then it was somewhat robotic 3059 01:55:17,990 --> 01:55:14,800 and so um i think you were 3060 01:55:20,390 --> 01:55:18,000 possibly calling or wanting to give 3061 01:55:21,830 --> 01:55:20,400 you two cents about the the ufo report 3062 01:55:28,229 --> 01:55:21,840 if i'm not mistaken and 3063 01:55:31,669 --> 01:55:29,830 and i was trying to find a comment 3064 01:55:33,109 --> 01:55:31,679 that's been many comments ago now i'm 3065 01:55:36,149 --> 01:55:33,119 glad you guys are 3066 01:55:36,790 --> 01:55:36,159 um having a robust conversation online 3067 01:55:38,310 --> 01:55:36,800 and i'm 3068 01:55:40,470 --> 01:55:38,320 it's gonna probably gonna take me a 3069 01:55:43,750 --> 01:55:40,480 while to to find out what it was 3070 01:55:46,709 --> 01:55:43,760 but anyway um fab 22 i'm sorry 3071 01:55:48,149 --> 01:55:46,719 again i hope maybe sometime if and when 3072 01:55:49,910 --> 01:55:48,159 your connection 3073 01:55:51,510 --> 01:55:49,920 might be a bit better that you you know 3074 01:55:53,669 --> 01:55:51,520 call in again and and 3075 01:55:55,589 --> 01:55:53,679 we'll we'll connect then because i know 3076 01:55:57,510 --> 01:55:55,599 i believe we talked once before the new 3077 01:55:59,189 --> 01:55:57,520 connection was pretty good then 3078 01:56:01,669 --> 01:55:59,199 um i don't know what happened this time 3079 01:56:05,910 --> 01:56:01,679 around 3080 01:56:08,709 --> 01:56:05,920 so what's everyone chatting about uh 3081 01:56:10,390 --> 01:56:08,719 art bell interviews yes i would 3082 01:56:13,510 --> 01:56:10,400 definitely recommend art bell 3083 01:56:13,990 --> 01:56:13,520 and you know that's our bell is it was 3084 01:56:18,070 --> 01:56:14,000 you know 3085 01:56:19,830 --> 01:56:18,080 for those um 3086 01:56:22,310 --> 01:56:19,840 uh for those that are basically kind of 3087 01:56:25,510 --> 01:56:22,320 into this it's art bell is 3088 01:56:25,910 --> 01:56:25,520 if you are in the very beginning this 3089 01:56:28,470 --> 01:56:25,920 was 3090 01:56:29,350 --> 01:56:28,480 that's kind of like the the godfather of 3091 01:56:32,470 --> 01:56:29,360 your 3092 01:56:34,950 --> 01:56:32,480 uh quintessential abduction 3093 01:56:35,990 --> 01:56:34,960 um story platform where people would 3094 01:56:37,990 --> 01:56:36,000 call in and just 3095 01:56:40,310 --> 01:56:38,000 be open about what it is that they 3096 01:56:42,550 --> 01:56:40,320 experienced and many other different 3097 01:56:44,070 --> 01:56:42,560 points of view you know and it wasn't 3098 01:56:45,830 --> 01:56:44,080 just you know 3099 01:56:47,910 --> 01:56:45,840 it wasn't always just the same thing 3100 01:56:50,950 --> 01:56:47,920 although when you listen to 3101 01:56:53,910 --> 01:56:50,960 so many abductions they have a kind of a 3102 01:56:54,390 --> 01:56:53,920 repeating pattern to it to them and but 3103 01:56:56,629 --> 01:56:54,400 then 3104 01:56:58,070 --> 01:56:56,639 the eventual experience and interactions 3105 01:56:58,870 --> 01:56:58,080 you know would differ from person to 3106 01:57:01,669 --> 01:56:58,880 person 3107 01:57:03,430 --> 01:57:01,679 so anyway i'm just jumping into the 3108 01:57:05,189 --> 01:57:03,440 conversation you guys so going back and 3109 01:57:07,189 --> 01:57:05,199 forth i just saw the name marbella and 3110 01:57:11,189 --> 01:57:07,199 figured i needed to 3111 01:57:12,950 --> 01:57:11,199 um to comment on it um and i'm sorry i 3112 01:57:15,189 --> 01:57:12,960 also if there's if there were any 3113 01:57:16,149 --> 01:57:15,199 questions none of them were popping out 3114 01:57:17,589 --> 01:57:16,159 at me because 3115 01:57:19,189 --> 01:57:17,599 i'm always asking if you have any 3116 01:57:21,270 --> 01:57:19,199 questions uh directing 3117 01:57:23,750 --> 01:57:21,280 directed towards me if you can please 3118 01:57:25,430 --> 01:57:23,760 put three stars before your question so 3119 01:57:27,109 --> 01:57:25,440 that way i know it's directed to me and 3120 01:57:28,470 --> 01:57:27,119 it's not just a chatter between all of 3121 01:57:30,149 --> 01:57:28,480 you 3122 01:57:31,510 --> 01:57:30,159 when the when the chat is going slow 3123 01:57:33,189 --> 01:57:31,520 then i can you know 3124 01:57:34,470 --> 01:57:33,199 kind of discern oh okay this is a 3125 01:57:36,229 --> 01:57:34,480 question if you don't even though you 3126 01:57:44,390 --> 01:57:36,239 don't have the three stars but generally 3127 01:57:49,830 --> 01:57:47,430 shelly smith said at ufo hub 3128 01:57:50,629 --> 01:57:49,840 can you share some some about your 3129 01:57:52,950 --> 01:57:50,639 experiences 3130 01:57:55,589 --> 01:57:52,960 you said you were muslim faith i haven't 3131 01:57:58,390 --> 01:57:55,599 heard about you for experiences from 3132 01:57:58,790 --> 01:57:58,400 uh dos and dad's faith please share well 3133 01:58:01,910 --> 01:57:58,800 the 3134 01:58:05,270 --> 01:58:01,920 that is 3135 01:58:08,709 --> 01:58:05,280 how i was growing up but it wasn't 3136 01:58:09,830 --> 01:58:08,719 the the faith and the ufo experience 3137 01:58:12,470 --> 01:58:09,840 wasn't 3138 01:58:13,669 --> 01:58:12,480 you know kind of intertwined with itself 3139 01:58:15,990 --> 01:58:13,679 it's i just basically 3140 01:58:17,270 --> 01:58:16,000 left one thing behind in order to 3141 01:58:20,870 --> 01:58:17,280 explore another 3142 01:58:23,030 --> 01:58:20,880 and um it was just something that didn't 3143 01:58:24,550 --> 01:58:23,040 didn't mesh with me at that time i'm i 3144 01:58:27,669 --> 01:58:24,560 mean i was 15. 3145 01:58:29,109 --> 01:58:27,679 so you could maybe add hormones to that 3146 01:58:30,950 --> 01:58:29,119 you know in addition to many other 3147 01:58:32,870 --> 01:58:30,960 things because it it 3148 01:58:34,390 --> 01:58:32,880 you know there was before i understood 3149 01:58:37,030 --> 01:58:34,400 what i understand now 3150 01:58:37,750 --> 01:58:37,040 um obviously i was born in bosnia and 3151 01:58:39,830 --> 01:58:37,760 part of my 3152 01:58:41,589 --> 01:58:39,840 one of my major parts of bosnia was the 3153 01:58:42,709 --> 01:58:41,599 war that you know that happened in the 3154 01:58:45,910 --> 01:58:42,719 early 90s 3155 01:58:48,390 --> 01:58:45,920 and so you know i you know i guess 3156 01:58:49,990 --> 01:58:48,400 every person of of whichever faith 3157 01:58:52,149 --> 01:58:50,000 eventually kind of goes 3158 01:58:53,350 --> 01:58:52,159 well if god is you know exists why why 3159 01:58:55,109 --> 01:58:53,360 did he let this happen 3160 01:58:56,950 --> 01:58:55,119 you know i mean women getting their 3161 01:58:58,470 --> 01:58:56,960 babies ripped out of their stomachs so 3162 01:58:59,510 --> 01:58:58,480 that the next generation can be 3163 01:59:01,669 --> 01:58:59,520 extinguished 3164 01:59:03,189 --> 01:59:01,679 you know and not allowed to continue you 3165 01:59:05,990 --> 01:59:03,199 know that much hatred 3166 01:59:07,750 --> 01:59:06,000 was already there between the the 3167 01:59:10,470 --> 01:59:07,760 countries that fought the wars 3168 01:59:12,550 --> 01:59:10,480 uh and um you know and on all these 3169 01:59:13,270 --> 01:59:12,560 astrocities that were created that i got 3170 01:59:15,990 --> 01:59:13,280 to witness 3171 01:59:17,350 --> 01:59:16,000 you know and neighbors that not that 3172 01:59:18,790 --> 01:59:17,360 long ago you know 3173 01:59:21,189 --> 01:59:18,800 we were friends and i was hanging out 3174 01:59:22,870 --> 01:59:21,199 with them you know a couple weeks later 3175 01:59:25,189 --> 01:59:22,880 they're laying on the streets with their 3176 01:59:27,350 --> 01:59:25,199 heads down shot in front of their houses 3177 01:59:29,109 --> 01:59:27,360 so all these things kind of make you go 3178 01:59:29,990 --> 01:59:29,119 well where is this allah that you keep 3179 01:59:32,950 --> 01:59:30,000 talking about it's there 3180 01:59:34,390 --> 01:59:32,960 to protect us and you know how much more 3181 01:59:36,870 --> 01:59:34,400 do i possibly have to do 3182 01:59:37,990 --> 01:59:36,880 for this allah to you know protect 3183 01:59:39,830 --> 01:59:38,000 everyone else 3184 01:59:41,270 --> 01:59:39,840 you know so that they don't have to go 3185 01:59:42,790 --> 01:59:41,280 through all that i think 3186 01:59:44,790 --> 01:59:42,800 you know most of us kind of go through 3187 01:59:46,229 --> 01:59:44,800 these different you know experiences 3188 01:59:48,070 --> 01:59:46,239 especially when you're younger and you 3189 01:59:50,149 --> 01:59:48,080 just kind of understand religion in this 3190 01:59:51,589 --> 01:59:50,159 black and white way well i'm good 3191 01:59:53,669 --> 01:59:51,599 therefore why there's bad things 3192 01:59:55,350 --> 01:59:53,679 happening to me you know or i did bad 3193 01:59:57,030 --> 01:59:55,360 things so i know now why i deserve 3194 01:59:57,669 --> 01:59:57,040 what's coming my way you know it's just 3195 02:00:00,790 --> 01:59:57,679 this very 3196 02:00:04,390 --> 02:00:00,800 broken down simplified way of 3197 02:00:08,070 --> 02:00:04,400 you know um cause and effect i guess 3198 02:00:11,109 --> 02:00:08,080 so anyway so the 3199 02:00:11,990 --> 02:00:11,119 if you don't mind me uh basically just 3200 02:00:15,350 --> 02:00:12,000 if i could direct 3201 02:00:17,430 --> 02:00:15,360 you to um to 3202 02:00:18,629 --> 02:00:17,440 uh the youtube channel ufo hub on 3203 02:00:21,350 --> 02:00:18,639 youtube um 3204 02:00:22,550 --> 02:00:21,360 there's a obviously the playlists and if 3205 02:00:25,589 --> 02:00:22,560 you go down playlist 3206 02:00:28,149 --> 02:00:25,599 you'll you'll find um uh 3207 02:00:29,669 --> 02:00:28,159 talks basically it's a playlist name and 3208 02:00:31,669 --> 02:00:29,679 there there are different talks that 3209 02:00:34,550 --> 02:00:31,679 i've given at different conferences 3210 02:00:35,910 --> 02:00:34,560 and um sharing a lot of my experiences 3211 02:00:41,189 --> 02:00:35,920 that i've covered 3212 02:00:43,750 --> 02:00:41,199 and so uh also my very first 3213 02:00:45,669 --> 02:00:43,760 streaming live streaming that i did i 3214 02:00:47,669 --> 02:00:45,679 went into more of the details of what i 3215 02:00:50,149 --> 02:00:47,679 call the five stages of contact 3216 02:00:50,709 --> 02:00:50,159 so i would also urge you to maybe just 3217 02:00:54,070 --> 02:00:50,719 go back 3218 02:00:56,310 --> 02:00:54,080 and re-listen to to that 3219 02:01:11,030 --> 02:00:56,320 or listen to that where i try to go into 3220 02:01:15,830 --> 02:01:13,109 okay uh this question uh there's a 3221 02:01:19,109 --> 02:01:15,840 question from um 3222 02:01:21,189 --> 02:01:19,119 gas pyrotechnics says 3223 02:01:22,390 --> 02:01:21,199 don't you think that after six months 3224 02:01:24,870 --> 02:01:22,400 what turned out to 3225 02:01:26,070 --> 02:01:24,880 to be actually a six page report is very 3226 02:01:29,510 --> 02:01:26,080 disappointing 3227 02:01:32,070 --> 02:01:29,520 um well like i said i i do 3228 02:01:32,629 --> 02:01:32,080 in the sense of that my expectations are 3229 02:01:35,510 --> 02:01:32,639 different 3230 02:01:37,589 --> 02:01:35,520 than someone else's so for those that 3231 02:01:39,430 --> 02:01:37,599 don't have any expectations 3232 02:01:41,270 --> 02:01:39,440 you know this is a lot for for 3233 02:01:43,830 --> 02:01:41,280 government even that's you know 3234 02:01:44,790 --> 02:01:43,840 basically six seven page report nine 3235 02:01:46,950 --> 02:01:44,800 total 3236 02:01:49,270 --> 02:01:46,960 plus or minus the intro and appendix 3237 02:01:51,589 --> 02:01:49,280 page and you're down to very few pages 3238 02:01:52,629 --> 02:01:51,599 uh the government admitting you know 3239 02:01:55,430 --> 02:01:52,639 basically that 3240 02:01:56,950 --> 02:01:55,440 they're they are real you know besides 3241 02:01:59,189 --> 02:01:56,960 already making an admission 3242 02:02:00,709 --> 02:01:59,199 kind of right at the beginning beginning 3243 02:02:04,229 --> 02:02:00,719 of the pandemic you know 3244 02:02:05,109 --> 02:02:04,239 and so um it's disappointing that 3245 02:02:07,589 --> 02:02:05,119 obviously they 3246 02:02:08,470 --> 02:02:07,599 didn't jump into exactly to the point 3247 02:02:10,709 --> 02:02:08,480 where i'm at 3248 02:02:12,229 --> 02:02:10,719 but uh you know for someone who's just 3249 02:02:15,030 --> 02:02:12,239 now into this or 3250 02:02:17,030 --> 02:02:15,040 um kind of always been waiting for the 3251 02:02:18,470 --> 02:02:17,040 government or the authorities to kind of 3252 02:02:20,149 --> 02:02:18,480 jump jump 3253 02:02:22,629 --> 02:02:20,159 first or kind of say something first 3254 02:02:25,109 --> 02:02:22,639 before they felt more confident 3255 02:02:26,390 --> 02:02:25,119 this is a great beginning because it's 3256 02:02:28,390 --> 02:02:26,400 it's very 3257 02:02:29,750 --> 02:02:28,400 very simplified i'll try to pray phrase 3258 02:02:30,790 --> 02:02:29,760 it again i think i've done it a couple 3259 02:02:32,950 --> 02:02:30,800 of times it basically 3260 02:02:33,830 --> 02:02:32,960 just states for those that haven't read 3261 02:02:36,950 --> 02:02:33,840 it 3262 02:02:40,790 --> 02:02:36,960 that the different sensors 3263 02:02:43,589 --> 02:02:40,800 uh infrared radar visual 3264 02:02:45,270 --> 02:02:43,599 visuals and all these different all the 3265 02:02:48,470 --> 02:02:45,280 different equipment that was used 3266 02:02:52,229 --> 02:02:48,480 registered these different objects 3267 02:02:55,109 --> 02:02:52,239 and and that they were physical and real 3268 02:02:56,149 --> 02:02:55,119 and that basically in essence they need 3269 02:03:00,470 --> 02:02:56,159 more money 3270 02:03:04,229 --> 02:03:00,480 and need a more a more of a 3271 02:03:07,109 --> 02:03:04,239 how did they say it needed more of a 3272 02:03:08,149 --> 02:03:07,119 better way to be able to take reports 3273 02:03:10,229 --> 02:03:08,159 which i think what 3274 02:03:11,510 --> 02:03:10,239 this also could mean that now they might 3275 02:03:14,149 --> 02:03:11,520 be more open 3276 02:03:16,550 --> 02:03:14,159 for reports to be taken in and not 3277 02:03:19,589 --> 02:03:16,560 necessarily shunned out because before 3278 02:03:20,550 --> 02:03:19,599 um doesn't matter fighter pilots uh 3279 02:03:23,189 --> 02:03:20,560 airline 3280 02:03:24,229 --> 02:03:23,199 pilots they're supposed to be you know 3281 02:03:26,629 --> 02:03:24,239 not these sane 3282 02:03:27,510 --> 02:03:26,639 people that generally if you talk about 3283 02:03:29,510 --> 02:03:27,520 you know 3284 02:03:31,430 --> 02:03:29,520 alien stuff that means you're crazy and 3285 02:03:33,830 --> 02:03:31,440 you know you're off the flight list 3286 02:03:35,589 --> 02:03:33,840 you know um now it would be making it 3287 02:03:37,510 --> 02:03:35,599 possible for them to be able to easily 3288 02:03:39,669 --> 02:03:37,520 make these reports and maybe not have to 3289 02:03:42,229 --> 02:03:39,679 worry about their jobs being taken away 3290 02:03:43,750 --> 02:03:42,239 you know so again you know it's 3291 02:03:45,669 --> 02:03:43,760 disappointing for some 3292 02:03:50,069 --> 02:03:45,679 but it's a it's a necessary beginning 3293 02:04:10,470 --> 02:03:53,750 okay let me see if there's 3294 02:04:14,870 --> 02:04:12,550 okay um i don't think there were any 3295 02:04:27,270 --> 02:04:14,880 other questions 3296 02:04:30,870 --> 02:04:29,589 oh shelley smith thank you um you know 3297 02:04:33,669 --> 02:04:30,880 it's all right you know 3298 02:04:35,109 --> 02:04:33,679 it was it was trauma that um i speak a 3299 02:04:39,990 --> 02:04:35,119 little bit about it 3300 02:04:43,030 --> 02:04:41,830 i can never say that it was drama that 3301 02:04:46,470 --> 02:04:43,040 was necessary 3302 02:04:47,270 --> 02:04:46,480 but it was drama that my higher self 3303 02:04:50,470 --> 02:04:47,280 kind of 3304 02:04:54,149 --> 02:04:50,480 took as a learning lesson to mold me 3305 02:04:56,390 --> 02:04:54,159 more psychologically and and and 3306 02:04:57,830 --> 02:04:56,400 whichever way to be able to deal with 3307 02:05:01,270 --> 02:04:57,840 this extreme 3308 02:05:04,310 --> 02:05:01,280 um stress this psychological 3309 02:05:05,990 --> 02:05:04,320 or the psychotic shock that could that 3310 02:05:08,069 --> 02:05:06,000 most people don't know how to deal with 3311 02:05:10,790 --> 02:05:08,079 which then i make a connection later on 3312 02:05:13,589 --> 02:05:10,800 in my talks regarding alien contact 3313 02:05:15,589 --> 02:05:13,599 that when when you're in their presence 3314 02:05:18,149 --> 02:05:15,599 you kind of are 3315 02:05:19,669 --> 02:05:18,159 vibrationally shifting up towards the 3316 02:05:22,550 --> 02:05:19,679 level that they're on 3317 02:05:23,589 --> 02:05:22,560 well that also means you start to become 3318 02:05:25,589 --> 02:05:23,599 more aware 3319 02:05:27,750 --> 02:05:25,599 you're this block that we live in under 3320 02:05:30,470 --> 02:05:27,760 this haze that i don't remember anything 3321 02:05:32,790 --> 02:05:30,480 all i know is my life lead you know from 3322 02:05:33,990 --> 02:05:32,800 so many years ago when i was born all up 3323 02:05:37,030 --> 02:05:34,000 until now that's all i know 3324 02:05:38,229 --> 02:05:37,040 and remember more things kind of like 3325 02:05:40,550 --> 02:05:38,239 the veil starts 3326 02:05:41,430 --> 02:05:40,560 getting lifted and it messes with your 3327 02:05:43,030 --> 02:05:41,440 head and 3328 02:05:45,589 --> 02:05:43,040 understanding that there's more out 3329 02:05:48,629 --> 02:05:45,599 there and so that causes this huge 3330 02:05:50,470 --> 02:05:48,639 psychotic shock to the system well later 3331 02:05:51,990 --> 02:05:50,480 on i learned that all that trauma and 3332 02:05:54,470 --> 02:05:52,000 everything that i've been through 3333 02:05:56,870 --> 02:05:54,480 and and harding myself against it is 3334 02:05:59,350 --> 02:05:56,880 exactly what i need to continue 3335 02:06:01,189 --> 02:05:59,360 i guess not to not to go crazy you know 3336 02:06:03,669 --> 02:06:01,199 because that's why contact 3337 02:06:04,950 --> 02:06:03,679 in general people always will have these 3338 02:06:07,589 --> 02:06:04,960 experiences of 3339 02:06:08,149 --> 02:06:07,599 well i passed out and then i had missing 3340 02:06:09,830 --> 02:06:08,159 time 3341 02:06:12,629 --> 02:06:09,840 or they would experience have 3342 02:06:15,910 --> 02:06:12,639 experiences like i just remember seeing 3343 02:06:17,350 --> 02:06:15,920 a ship and i you know looked at it and 3344 02:06:19,189 --> 02:06:17,360 you know the next thing i know it was 3345 02:06:20,390 --> 02:06:19,199 going away and then i realized time 3346 02:06:23,350 --> 02:06:20,400 passed you know and 3347 02:06:24,790 --> 02:06:23,360 they would have this gap of time of what 3348 02:06:27,510 --> 02:06:24,800 in the world was happening 3349 02:06:28,790 --> 02:06:27,520 there's a there's a reason for that some 3350 02:06:31,109 --> 02:06:28,800 would say okay 3351 02:06:32,470 --> 02:06:31,119 uh it's a nefarious reason this is 3352 02:06:33,830 --> 02:06:32,480 that's why it's happening 3353 02:06:35,270 --> 02:06:33,840 they're doing everything behind your 3354 02:06:37,109 --> 02:06:35,280 back so i don't want you know what's 3355 02:06:37,830 --> 02:06:37,119 going on so it's obviously that's what 3356 02:06:40,709 --> 02:06:37,840 it is 3357 02:06:41,430 --> 02:06:40,719 well with many others experiencers um 3358 02:06:43,750 --> 02:06:41,440 other 3359 02:06:45,270 --> 02:06:43,760 uh more researchers like dolores cannon 3360 02:06:47,510 --> 02:06:45,280 who did a lot of the 3361 02:06:49,589 --> 02:06:47,520 past life regressions you know and 3362 02:06:52,470 --> 02:06:49,599 through my own personal experiences 3363 02:06:54,550 --> 02:06:52,480 it has a lot to do with energy and how 3364 02:06:55,830 --> 02:06:54,560 much each individual of this energy 3365 02:06:59,030 --> 02:06:55,840 shift can take 3366 02:07:02,149 --> 02:06:59,040 and very very very few 3367 02:07:04,069 --> 02:07:02,159 have actually achieved and and 3368 02:07:05,189 --> 02:07:04,079 i don't know them personally i'd love to 3369 02:07:08,629 --> 02:07:05,199 talk to them only 3370 02:07:09,830 --> 02:07:08,639 i heard you know um literally my entire 3371 02:07:11,430 --> 02:07:09,840 time that i've 3372 02:07:13,030 --> 02:07:11,440 had this different experiences because 3373 02:07:15,189 --> 02:07:13,040 i've been trying to have this physical 3374 02:07:18,310 --> 02:07:15,199 contact to where there's no broken 3375 02:07:19,990 --> 02:07:18,320 um timeline of my conscious remembrance 3376 02:07:21,990 --> 02:07:20,000 you know of what had occurred and i 3377 02:07:24,790 --> 02:07:22,000 could never really quite get there it 3378 02:07:26,390 --> 02:07:24,800 always had to be um physically leading 3379 02:07:27,910 --> 02:07:26,400 up to a point and then they had to back 3380 02:07:28,470 --> 02:07:27,920 off otherwise it was too much for me to 3381 02:07:30,470 --> 02:07:28,480 take 3382 02:07:32,550 --> 02:07:30,480 you know then only when i would go to 3383 02:07:35,430 --> 02:07:32,560 sleep you know or 3384 02:07:37,270 --> 02:07:35,440 out of body would i have more contact 3385 02:07:38,390 --> 02:07:37,280 and more 3386 02:07:40,390 --> 02:07:38,400 things that were happening and then 3387 02:07:42,870 --> 02:07:40,400 eventually you know when you hear 3388 02:07:44,149 --> 02:07:42,880 uh some of my other talks to her i 3389 02:07:46,629 --> 02:07:44,159 literally had to 3390 02:07:47,510 --> 02:07:46,639 go through a near-death experience to be 3391 02:07:49,669 --> 02:07:47,520 fully out 3392 02:07:50,709 --> 02:07:49,679 to understand even more because i 3393 02:07:53,990 --> 02:07:50,719 couldn't have taken it 3394 02:07:55,830 --> 02:07:54,000 physically otherwise and so anyway there 3395 02:07:57,990 --> 02:07:55,840 is a there is a reason why it's 3396 02:07:59,990 --> 02:07:58,000 happening it's just 3397 02:08:01,910 --> 02:08:00,000 will the willingness to go down this 3398 02:08:05,750 --> 02:08:01,920 direction to look into 3399 02:08:07,510 --> 02:08:05,760 and and try to understand you know um 3400 02:08:09,109 --> 02:08:07,520 what's happening because it is a very 3401 02:08:12,310 --> 02:08:09,119 fearful experience as 3402 02:08:15,669 --> 02:08:12,320 most people recall and even i you know 3403 02:08:16,790 --> 02:08:15,679 many times you know uh i'm not ashamed 3404 02:08:19,589 --> 02:08:16,800 to say it 3405 02:08:20,310 --> 02:08:19,599 you will almost always every time when a 3406 02:08:23,350 --> 02:08:20,320 coward 3407 02:08:26,390 --> 02:08:23,360 counter in a corner and just 3408 02:08:27,669 --> 02:08:26,400 wish it goes away because the the there 3409 02:08:30,390 --> 02:08:27,679 was 3410 02:08:30,870 --> 02:08:30,400 the fear is so weird in the sense of 3411 02:08:32,229 --> 02:08:30,880 that 3412 02:08:33,910 --> 02:08:32,239 when you're sitting by yourself you 3413 02:08:35,510 --> 02:08:33,920 think everything's fine you know 3414 02:08:36,950 --> 02:08:35,520 there's you know i'm not afraid if 3415 02:08:38,069 --> 02:08:36,960 something happens i'll deal with the 3416 02:08:41,270 --> 02:08:38,079 situation 3417 02:08:44,790 --> 02:08:41,280 well imagine imagine you're 3418 02:08:46,229 --> 02:08:44,800 afraid of snakes right and imagine 3419 02:08:48,470 --> 02:08:46,239 right at this moment where you're 3420 02:08:51,109 --> 02:08:48,480 perfectly fine and everything is okay 3421 02:08:51,990 --> 02:08:51,119 there's a snake right on your shoulder 3422 02:08:54,069 --> 02:08:52,000 or in your 3423 02:08:55,109 --> 02:08:54,079 you know coming down your arm you know 3424 02:08:57,750 --> 02:08:55,119 and not only that 3425 02:08:58,629 --> 02:08:57,760 now imagine there's like 50 snakes all 3426 02:09:00,870 --> 02:08:58,639 over you 3427 02:09:02,470 --> 02:09:00,880 you know from this perfectly calm 3428 02:09:03,510 --> 02:09:02,480 everything's fine i'm going to deal with 3429 02:09:05,270 --> 02:09:03,520 the situation 3430 02:09:06,550 --> 02:09:05,280 normally and rationally then when it 3431 02:09:08,709 --> 02:09:06,560 happens you know 3432 02:09:10,629 --> 02:09:08,719 you're automatically freaked out and you 3433 02:09:12,870 --> 02:09:10,639 just you know almost get this 3434 02:09:14,310 --> 02:09:12,880 block where you just freeze you're like 3435 02:09:16,709 --> 02:09:14,320 i don't know what to do 3436 02:09:18,149 --> 02:09:16,719 that experience is very similar to that 3437 02:09:20,550 --> 02:09:18,159 so it's not necessarily 3438 02:09:21,350 --> 02:09:20,560 that they're wanting to cause this is 3439 02:09:23,350 --> 02:09:21,360 something that 3440 02:09:24,550 --> 02:09:23,360 you know was happening to me over and 3441 02:09:27,189 --> 02:09:24,560 over again until i 3442 02:09:28,629 --> 02:09:27,199 finally just hit me i said oh that's 3443 02:09:30,470 --> 02:09:28,639 what's happening you know because they 3444 02:09:32,229 --> 02:09:30,480 were showing me through examples like 3445 02:09:34,550 --> 02:09:32,239 you know there's your wall this is the 3446 02:09:36,870 --> 02:09:34,560 wall this is why we can't this you know 3447 02:09:39,189 --> 02:09:36,880 and so anyway i apologize if i didn't 3448 02:09:41,430 --> 02:09:39,199 finish this what i meant to say earlier 3449 02:09:42,310 --> 02:09:41,440 very few people managed to get through 3450 02:09:44,870 --> 02:09:42,320 that and have 3451 02:09:46,069 --> 02:09:44,880 actual physical contact and go through 3452 02:09:48,790 --> 02:09:46,079 that process 3453 02:09:50,470 --> 02:09:48,800 but that is very very few i would you 3454 02:09:53,109 --> 02:09:50,480 know 3455 02:09:57,430 --> 02:09:53,119 based on just the murmurings i would be 3456 02:10:02,390 --> 02:10:00,629 five on the entire planet you know 3457 02:10:04,790 --> 02:10:02,400 and the rest of us were just having 3458 02:10:07,430 --> 02:10:04,800 experiences similar to mine and others 3459 02:10:08,149 --> 02:10:07,440 you know to where you have to you know 3460 02:10:10,149 --> 02:10:08,159 really 3461 02:10:12,390 --> 02:10:10,159 there's a lot psychologically has to be 3462 02:10:14,629 --> 02:10:12,400 dealt with so anyway they know this 3463 02:10:16,149 --> 02:10:14,639 so they don't necessarily they don't go 3464 02:10:17,910 --> 02:10:16,159 through the process of like 3465 02:10:20,149 --> 02:10:17,920 we're gonna land no matter what they 3466 02:10:22,069 --> 02:10:20,159 know we're gonna basically lose our [\h__\h] 3467 02:10:23,430 --> 02:10:22,079 and it would not be beneficial for us or 3468 02:10:25,270 --> 02:10:23,440 the planet in general 3469 02:10:26,550 --> 02:10:25,280 and how our society functions you know 3470 02:10:29,030 --> 02:10:26,560 we can't have 3471 02:10:30,390 --> 02:10:29,040 all the farmers uh all the people that 3472 02:10:31,750 --> 02:10:30,400 are just you know running the 3473 02:10:33,510 --> 02:10:31,760 electricity and 3474 02:10:35,270 --> 02:10:33,520 doing what they do on a daily basis all 3475 02:10:37,189 --> 02:10:35,280 of a sudden just go crazy 3476 02:10:38,470 --> 02:10:37,199 because the psychological thing that 3477 02:10:53,750 --> 02:10:38,480 they have to deal with so 3478 02:10:59,030 --> 02:10:56,790 hey hazel how are you hazel you were 3479 02:11:02,069 --> 02:10:59,040 asking me would you be able to interview 3480 02:11:05,430 --> 02:11:02,079 someone and keep their privacy 3481 02:11:09,589 --> 02:11:09,109 you mean just if they you mean like a 3482 02:11:11,109 --> 02:11:09,599 guest 3483 02:11:13,510 --> 02:11:11,119 are you talking about yourself 3484 02:11:15,350 --> 02:11:13,520 specifically or can you please clarify 3485 02:11:17,990 --> 02:11:15,360 i'm not exactly sure i mean 3486 02:11:19,510 --> 02:11:18,000 when you speak to me i you can just if 3487 02:11:21,430 --> 02:11:19,520 let's say if you're on telegram 3488 02:11:22,629 --> 02:11:21,440 you can just have a cryptic name you 3489 02:11:24,550 --> 02:11:22,639 know and just have 3490 02:11:26,310 --> 02:11:24,560 that name and if i ask you what you want 3491 02:11:27,270 --> 02:11:26,320 me to call you can just say you know 3492 02:11:30,149 --> 02:11:27,280 whatever 3493 02:11:31,430 --> 02:11:30,159 call me this and so that way you get the 3494 02:11:34,550 --> 02:11:31,440 anonymity and 3495 02:11:36,069 --> 02:11:34,560 anonymity that way you know without 3496 02:11:37,669 --> 02:11:36,079 you know needing to give up more 3497 02:11:47,030 --> 02:11:37,679 information if i'm 3498 02:11:52,229 --> 02:11:50,310 uh m says i hugely admire and 3499 02:11:54,709 --> 02:11:52,239 appreciate your work and then bringing 3500 02:11:56,709 --> 02:11:54,719 great minds hearts together 3501 02:11:58,629 --> 02:11:56,719 your courage and passion your research 3502 02:12:00,390 --> 02:11:58,639 bringing up together 3503 02:12:02,310 --> 02:12:00,400 who share your passion excellent thank 3504 02:12:05,350 --> 02:12:02,320 you well thank you em i thank you 3505 02:12:07,669 --> 02:12:05,360 for for being here you know because 3506 02:12:08,950 --> 02:12:07,679 you know it's easy it's so much easier 3507 02:12:11,910 --> 02:12:08,960 just doing this 3508 02:12:12,310 --> 02:12:11,920 on my own without anyone ever needing to 3509 02:12:15,669 --> 02:12:12,320 know 3510 02:12:17,990 --> 02:12:15,679 this but i guess it wasn't meant to be 3511 02:12:19,350 --> 02:12:18,000 it was almost like my friend cherry wild 3512 02:12:21,990 --> 02:12:19,360 you know kind of said 3513 02:12:22,390 --> 02:12:22,000 uh calls a book a forgotten promise when 3514 02:12:24,390 --> 02:12:22,400 you 3515 02:12:25,430 --> 02:12:24,400 when i got that download it was 3516 02:12:27,430 --> 02:12:25,440 basically kind of 3517 02:12:29,350 --> 02:12:27,440 understood you know i understood that 3518 02:12:32,709 --> 02:12:29,360 this was what was supposed to do 3519 02:12:33,189 --> 02:12:32,719 it's just start creating breadcrumbs for 3520 02:12:36,069 --> 02:12:33,199 people 3521 02:12:38,069 --> 02:12:36,079 that they can also follow as well but 3522 02:12:40,390 --> 02:12:38,079 keep in mind i'm also in the same boat 3523 02:12:42,629 --> 02:12:40,400 as all of you are you know you guys 3524 02:12:45,350 --> 02:12:42,639 doing research on your own i do mine 3525 02:12:46,870 --> 02:12:45,360 maybe i it mine gets to be more public 3526 02:12:49,750 --> 02:12:46,880 but at the end of the day 3527 02:12:50,550 --> 02:12:49,760 we're all going to together end up at 3528 02:12:53,510 --> 02:12:50,560 the same 3529 02:12:55,589 --> 02:12:53,520 same conclusion uh meaning also so many 3530 02:12:57,430 --> 02:12:55,599 years down the road what context comes 3531 02:13:09,109 --> 02:12:57,440 i'll be in the same boat so to say as 3532 02:13:13,990 --> 02:13:11,750 uh m rollins and have you seen the alien 3533 02:13:16,629 --> 02:13:14,000 autopsy what did you think 3534 02:13:17,430 --> 02:13:16,639 i've seen several different videos and 3535 02:13:20,629 --> 02:13:17,440 so 3536 02:13:23,589 --> 02:13:20,639 things is that there's no 3537 02:13:25,510 --> 02:13:23,599 surefire way to confirm uh some of these 3538 02:13:29,669 --> 02:13:25,520 videos because some people are really 3539 02:13:32,950 --> 02:13:29,679 awesome and great in in um 3540 02:13:35,270 --> 02:13:32,960 um certain um 3541 02:13:36,390 --> 02:13:35,280 certain looks of some aliens based on 3542 02:13:39,910 --> 02:13:36,400 descriptions 3543 02:13:41,589 --> 02:13:39,920 uh the way it looks and the the realness 3544 02:13:44,709 --> 02:13:41,599 to it so it's hard to tell 3545 02:13:48,229 --> 02:13:44,719 if this was really a stage 3546 02:13:50,310 --> 02:13:48,239 stage uh an event or was it really just 3547 02:13:51,430 --> 02:13:50,320 a you know government cam you know 3548 02:13:53,510 --> 02:13:51,440 government dude 3549 02:13:54,790 --> 02:13:53,520 with the camera in the room as this is 3550 02:13:58,550 --> 02:13:54,800 happening so 3551 02:14:01,510 --> 02:13:58,560 um some of them they're very intriguing 3552 02:14:02,229 --> 02:14:01,520 uh some um not so much you can tell it's 3553 02:14:08,390 --> 02:14:02,239 just 3554 02:14:09,910 --> 02:14:08,400 you know uh thing i don't know for what 3555 02:14:12,149 --> 02:14:09,920 reason you know but uh 3556 02:14:13,350 --> 02:14:12,159 there was one other that i saw was 3557 02:14:15,109 --> 02:14:13,360 really 3558 02:14:16,709 --> 02:14:15,119 made me think you know that and that's 3559 02:14:17,830 --> 02:14:16,719 all i can tell you about that i wish i 3560 02:14:26,709 --> 02:14:17,840 had more of a 3561 02:14:30,069 --> 02:14:26,719 of a way to confirm it 3562 02:14:32,229 --> 02:14:30,079 fab 26 22 says you think the next 3563 02:14:34,470 --> 02:14:32,239 uh congress hearing will bear more 3564 02:14:37,030 --> 02:14:34,480 revealing info well 3565 02:14:38,229 --> 02:14:37,040 if you see the the report it did say 3566 02:14:41,589 --> 02:14:38,239 that it was a 3567 02:14:42,390 --> 02:14:41,599 a preliminary report or preliminary 3568 02:14:45,189 --> 02:14:42,400 assessment 3569 02:14:45,910 --> 02:14:45,199 so when you look up what that means is 3570 02:14:49,830 --> 02:14:45,920 that 3571 02:14:53,109 --> 02:14:49,840 it's just like the the initial um 3572 02:14:56,149 --> 02:14:53,119 the initial i guess uh 3573 02:14:58,709 --> 02:14:56,159 analysis of what's going on that 3574 02:14:59,990 --> 02:14:58,719 they could very well possibly be more 3575 02:15:01,910 --> 02:15:00,000 exposed or more 3576 02:15:03,750 --> 02:15:01,920 coming out now how long that takes i 3577 02:15:04,310 --> 02:15:03,760 don't know it's i don't i don't think 3578 02:15:07,589 --> 02:15:04,320 they're 3579 02:15:09,669 --> 02:15:07,599 can 3580 02:15:11,430 --> 02:15:09,679 you know of course it might got drug out 3581 02:15:14,149 --> 02:15:11,440 a bit longer you know plus 3582 02:15:14,550 --> 02:15:14,159 you have to also keep in mind um while 3583 02:15:17,030 --> 02:15:14,560 we're 3584 02:15:17,750 --> 02:15:17,040 concentrating on ufos what's going on on 3585 02:15:20,470 --> 02:15:17,760 the planet 3586 02:15:21,109 --> 02:15:20,480 and especially like in america and and 3587 02:15:22,709 --> 02:15:21,119 europe 3588 02:15:24,390 --> 02:15:22,719 and england and all these different 3589 02:15:26,629 --> 02:15:24,400 places um 3590 02:15:27,669 --> 02:15:26,639 that is part of this shift that's been 3591 02:15:30,790 --> 02:15:27,679 foreseen for 3592 02:15:33,910 --> 02:15:30,800 decades ago that um 3593 02:15:36,950 --> 02:15:33,920 certain energies and certain changes um 3594 02:15:38,790 --> 02:15:36,960 are basically gonna make everything 3595 02:15:39,669 --> 02:15:38,800 that's been hidden before come up to the 3596 02:15:42,550 --> 02:15:39,679 forefront 3597 02:15:43,510 --> 02:15:42,560 you know to where uh all kinds of groups 3598 02:15:45,830 --> 02:15:43,520 of people that 3599 02:15:47,350 --> 02:15:45,840 you know we see now where we just go 3600 02:15:48,950 --> 02:15:47,360 what where in the world did these people 3601 02:15:50,229 --> 02:15:48,960 come from you know what what in the 3602 02:15:51,830 --> 02:15:50,239 world is going on 3603 02:15:53,669 --> 02:15:51,840 you know and i'm not mentioning a 3604 02:15:56,709 --> 02:15:53,679 specific group on purpose because then 3605 02:15:56,950 --> 02:15:56,719 people concentrate on that and they want 3606 02:16:01,030 --> 02:15:56,960 an 3607 02:16:03,430 --> 02:16:01,040 the point is 3608 02:16:05,589 --> 02:16:03,440 it's out there and so how we deal with 3609 02:16:07,750 --> 02:16:05,599 it now as a society on the planet is 3610 02:16:09,270 --> 02:16:07,760 how we'll go about it believe me i have 3611 02:16:10,069 --> 02:16:09,280 some personal experience when i'm off 3612 02:16:12,310 --> 02:16:10,079 camera 3613 02:16:13,750 --> 02:16:12,320 personal opinions about these different 3614 02:16:17,030 --> 02:16:13,760 things going on 3615 02:16:18,470 --> 02:16:17,040 and i you know uh inform my children 3616 02:16:20,390 --> 02:16:18,480 accordingly especially 3617 02:16:21,990 --> 02:16:20,400 one that's in the teenage years the 3618 02:16:24,149 --> 02:16:22,000 other two are way too young 3619 02:16:25,030 --> 02:16:24,159 you know but if and when the time comes 3620 02:16:27,350 --> 02:16:25,040 you know that 3621 02:16:28,790 --> 02:16:27,360 you know i would tell them and raise 3622 02:16:31,030 --> 02:16:28,800 them in the way that 3623 02:16:32,870 --> 02:16:31,040 you know that i've been raised and my 3624 02:16:36,150 --> 02:16:32,880 approach has always been 3625 02:16:38,389 --> 02:16:36,160 that i will never be a victim so i'm 3626 02:16:39,190 --> 02:16:38,399 never going to look at somebody else and 3627 02:16:41,910 --> 02:16:39,200 say 3628 02:16:42,709 --> 02:16:41,920 i don't have something because of you 3629 02:16:45,509 --> 02:16:42,719 you know 3630 02:16:47,509 --> 02:16:45,519 because in my whole history of family 3631 02:16:50,230 --> 02:16:47,519 and just the way what i've experienced 3632 02:16:50,709 --> 02:16:50,240 just to go back you know my grandfather 3633 02:16:52,870 --> 02:16:50,719 was 3634 02:16:53,990 --> 02:16:52,880 in in the concentration camp during 3635 02:16:56,950 --> 02:16:54,000 world war ii 3636 02:16:58,790 --> 02:16:56,960 well um you know especially during you 3637 02:16:59,750 --> 02:16:58,800 know the partisans you know fighting off 3638 02:17:02,709 --> 02:16:59,760 the nazis 3639 02:17:03,990 --> 02:17:02,719 you know and um basically during that 3640 02:17:05,509 --> 02:17:04,000 conflict people were 3641 02:17:07,429 --> 02:17:05,519 you know captured and taken to 3642 02:17:08,150 --> 02:17:07,439 concentration camps and whatnot and my 3643 02:17:10,950 --> 02:17:08,160 mom's 3644 02:17:12,469 --> 02:17:10,960 that you know grandfather was part of 3645 02:17:14,709 --> 02:17:12,479 them you know and so 3646 02:17:15,669 --> 02:17:14,719 when when the camps were eventually 3647 02:17:17,429 --> 02:17:15,679 liberated 3648 02:17:19,030 --> 02:17:17,439 he had to there was no great help he 3649 02:17:21,669 --> 02:17:19,040 basically walked back 3650 02:17:22,709 --> 02:17:21,679 from the camps back to bosnia to where 3651 02:17:25,669 --> 02:17:22,719 he was born 3652 02:17:27,589 --> 02:17:25,679 you know and um you know i he died when 3653 02:17:29,349 --> 02:17:27,599 i was very young but every story i know 3654 02:17:32,629 --> 02:17:29,359 from my mom and my family 3655 02:17:35,110 --> 02:17:32,639 is that he he went there he said 3656 02:17:37,110 --> 02:17:35,120 there was a part of my life that he just 3657 02:17:38,230 --> 02:17:37,120 basically bought himself a plot to la 3658 02:17:41,270 --> 02:17:38,240 plata land 3659 02:17:43,509 --> 02:17:41,280 cows started up a farm and and you know 3660 02:17:44,070 --> 02:17:43,519 my mom's family still lives there to 3661 02:17:46,230 --> 02:17:44,080 this day 3662 02:17:47,990 --> 02:17:46,240 when germany was paying out reparations 3663 02:17:50,070 --> 02:17:48,000 he didn't want to have any of that 3664 02:17:51,990 --> 02:17:50,080 he said i'm i'm done whatever happened 3665 02:17:54,709 --> 02:17:52,000 happened i don't see myself 3666 02:17:56,150 --> 02:17:54,719 as a victim i'm living my life and that 3667 02:17:58,549 --> 02:17:56,160 is his victory 3668 02:17:59,910 --> 02:17:58,559 you know instead if he went back to the 3669 02:18:01,990 --> 02:17:59,920 germans you know and then 3670 02:18:03,830 --> 02:18:02,000 begging and wanting something from them 3671 02:18:05,750 --> 02:18:03,840 you know then he would give them 3672 02:18:07,349 --> 02:18:05,760 that you know power that they always 3673 02:18:10,469 --> 02:18:07,359 wanted over him you know 3674 02:18:13,190 --> 02:18:10,479 and so then moving forward you know 3675 02:18:13,589 --> 02:18:13,200 when it comes to you know talking about 3676 02:18:15,830 --> 02:18:13,599 uh 3677 02:18:17,830 --> 02:18:15,840 um catch-22 and that make make that 3678 02:18:19,110 --> 02:18:17,840 correction not germans nazis 3679 02:18:20,950 --> 02:18:19,120 you know i'm sorry that has to be 3680 02:18:22,709 --> 02:18:20,960 clarified you know because 3681 02:18:24,950 --> 02:18:22,719 you know it was the the nazis and the 3682 02:18:28,230 --> 02:18:24,960 nazi propaganda that basically you know 3683 02:18:31,270 --> 02:18:28,240 got to the level that it did but 3684 02:18:33,990 --> 02:18:31,280 what happened you know afterwards was um 3685 02:18:34,389 --> 02:18:34,000 uh when the bosnian war broke out you 3686 02:18:36,950 --> 02:18:34,399 know 3687 02:18:38,709 --> 02:18:36,960 the war in bosnia broke out when we fled 3688 02:18:41,190 --> 02:18:38,719 germany was the country that took 3689 02:18:43,110 --> 02:18:41,200 us in and gave us a place to stay and 3690 02:18:43,669 --> 02:18:43,120 give us a kind of a staging area where 3691 02:18:45,429 --> 02:18:43,679 we could 3692 02:18:46,709 --> 02:18:45,439 start going back to school and have a 3693 02:18:48,950 --> 02:18:46,719 life of normalcy 3694 02:18:51,110 --> 02:18:48,960 so when it comes to the little karma 3695 02:18:51,990 --> 02:18:51,120 between germany and bosnia and my family 3696 02:18:54,629 --> 02:18:52,000 with the nazis 3697 02:18:57,030 --> 02:18:54,639 and germans as far as i'm concerned when 3698 02:18:58,629 --> 02:18:57,040 my family was on the verge of extinction 3699 02:19:01,429 --> 02:18:58,639 they offered us help and 3700 02:19:01,990 --> 02:19:01,439 for that i i'll be forever grateful you 3701 02:19:04,629 --> 02:19:02,000 know so 3702 02:19:05,990 --> 02:19:04,639 the karma cycle for me as far as i'm 3703 02:19:09,110 --> 02:19:06,000 concerned has been repaid 3704 02:19:11,669 --> 02:19:09,120 and done you know because um you know 3705 02:19:13,669 --> 02:19:11,679 there's no point for me to kind of 3706 02:19:15,669 --> 02:19:13,679 go go over it over and over again and 3707 02:19:18,070 --> 02:19:15,679 then when i lived in germany it's just 3708 02:19:19,429 --> 02:19:18,080 you know forgive me for some germans 3709 02:19:23,110 --> 02:19:19,439 that might be watching this 3710 02:19:25,349 --> 02:19:23,120 but just my uh my 3711 02:19:27,270 --> 02:19:25,359 what you would call it a impression of 3712 02:19:29,830 --> 02:19:27,280 the germans was that 3713 02:19:30,790 --> 02:19:29,840 they were so ashamed what had happened 3714 02:19:33,429 --> 02:19:30,800 during that time 3715 02:19:33,990 --> 02:19:33,439 that they were even afraid to be germans 3716 02:19:36,469 --> 02:19:34,000 you know 3717 02:19:38,469 --> 02:19:36,479 they don't they can't even wave their 3718 02:19:40,709 --> 02:19:38,479 own flag they're like oh god you know 3719 02:19:41,910 --> 02:19:40,719 let's not you know this people might 3720 02:19:44,309 --> 02:19:41,920 think we're we're 3721 02:19:45,990 --> 02:19:44,319 too patriotic and the nazis will rise 3722 02:19:47,270 --> 02:19:46,000 again i always thought that was silly 3723 02:19:49,030 --> 02:19:47,280 you know like germany is a 3724 02:19:50,710 --> 02:19:49,040 very beautiful country and the culture 3725 02:19:51,429 --> 02:19:50,720 and the people it's like you should be 3726 02:19:54,230 --> 02:19:51,439 proud of that 3727 02:19:54,790 --> 02:19:54,240 you know and and you know you you you 3728 02:19:56,950 --> 02:19:54,800 know 3729 02:19:58,070 --> 02:19:56,960 to the extent to where you're just 3730 02:20:00,309 --> 02:19:58,080 obnoxiously 3731 02:20:01,590 --> 02:20:00,319 you know uh proud of that like americans 3732 02:20:03,750 --> 02:20:01,600 are to be americans 3733 02:20:05,750 --> 02:20:03,760 you know and so you know there's nothing 3734 02:20:06,309 --> 02:20:05,760 wrong with that it does not mean that it 3735 02:20:09,030 --> 02:20:06,319 will go 3736 02:20:09,830 --> 02:20:09,040 right back into what it was during world 3737 02:20:12,710 --> 02:20:09,840 war ii 3738 02:20:13,110 --> 02:20:12,720 because a culture you know in a country 3739 02:20:15,270 --> 02:20:13,120 is 3740 02:20:17,270 --> 02:20:15,280 its own country you can't just try to 3741 02:20:18,389 --> 02:20:17,280 eliminate everything about germany what 3742 02:20:20,510 --> 02:20:18,399 makes it german 3743 02:20:22,790 --> 02:20:20,520 you know and so anyway it's just my 3744 02:20:26,230 --> 02:20:22,800 observation having lived there from 3745 02:20:29,750 --> 02:20:26,240 pretty much late uh 92 till 3746 02:20:30,070 --> 02:20:29,760 um you know late 98 and it's a very long 3747 02:20:33,190 --> 02:20:30,080 time 3748 02:20:34,870 --> 02:20:33,200 always say 3749 02:20:37,110 --> 02:20:34,880 i was born in bosnia but grew up in 3750 02:20:37,510 --> 02:20:37,120 germany you know everything the way i 3751 02:20:40,309 --> 02:20:37,520 live 3752 02:20:41,030 --> 02:20:40,319 now the way i talk to people the the 3753 02:20:43,349 --> 02:20:41,040 approach 3754 02:20:44,630 --> 02:20:43,359 about friendliness and and just being 3755 02:20:47,190 --> 02:20:44,640 polite you know is 3756 02:20:47,990 --> 02:20:47,200 is what was taught to me in germany in 3757 02:20:49,750 --> 02:20:48,000 schools 3758 02:20:52,070 --> 02:20:49,760 you know and it's like it's something 3759 02:20:55,830 --> 02:20:52,080 that i try to instill in my children 3760 02:20:58,150 --> 02:20:55,840 you know and so um so what i'm 3761 02:21:00,070 --> 02:20:58,160 basically what i'm trying to say is that 3762 02:21:00,550 --> 02:21:00,080 there's so many reasons that you can 3763 02:21:05,670 --> 02:21:00,560 blame 3764 02:21:07,510 --> 02:21:05,680 people but 3765 02:21:09,030 --> 02:21:07,520 we came here to this country with 3766 02:21:11,030 --> 02:21:09,040 literally nothing 3767 02:21:13,349 --> 02:21:11,040 you know it's like and the first time we 3768 02:21:15,270 --> 02:21:13,359 actually immigrated to to united states 3769 02:21:15,670 --> 02:21:15,280 before we were just running wherever we 3770 02:21:17,270 --> 02:21:15,680 could 3771 02:21:19,429 --> 02:21:17,280 hoping and begging each country on the 3772 02:21:21,349 --> 02:21:19,439 way to take us in we were rejected 3773 02:21:22,230 --> 02:21:21,359 several times before finally germany 3774 02:21:24,630 --> 02:21:22,240 took us in 3775 02:21:26,070 --> 02:21:24,640 you know so there was my chance to 3776 02:21:29,429 --> 02:21:26,080 legally come to the united 3777 02:21:32,389 --> 02:21:29,439 states and because of having 3778 02:21:32,870 --> 02:21:32,399 seen what extinction looks like what 3779 02:21:36,469 --> 02:21:32,880 true 3780 02:21:40,309 --> 02:21:36,479 looks like 3781 02:21:42,550 --> 02:21:40,319 america was still is the dreamland 3782 02:21:44,710 --> 02:21:42,560 you know and so there's not one single 3783 02:21:46,630 --> 02:21:44,720 boss in that that would tell you 3784 02:21:48,309 --> 02:21:46,640 oh i can't make it because whatever 3785 02:21:49,349 --> 02:21:48,319 americans are not allow me to do 3786 02:21:51,670 --> 02:21:49,359 something 3787 02:21:52,870 --> 02:21:51,680 they start businesses they go about 3788 02:21:54,630 --> 02:21:52,880 their lives they 3789 02:21:56,630 --> 02:21:54,640 start trucking companies they start 3790 02:21:57,349 --> 02:21:56,640 restaurants you know it's the mindset 3791 02:21:58,790 --> 02:21:57,359 you know there's 3792 02:22:01,110 --> 02:21:58,800 you know and even even within the 3793 02:22:02,550 --> 02:22:01,120 buzzing community even my parents 3794 02:22:04,309 --> 02:22:02,560 like don't hang out with so-and-so 3795 02:22:06,150 --> 02:22:04,319 because you know they're they're 3796 02:22:07,990 --> 02:22:06,160 they don't have any plans in their lives 3797 02:22:09,510 --> 02:22:08,000 to do anything great you know it's like 3798 02:22:11,590 --> 02:22:09,520 we want you to go down this path you 3799 02:22:14,070 --> 02:22:11,600 know it's it's the it's the 3800 02:22:14,710 --> 02:22:14,080 parents basically being there with you 3801 02:22:18,870 --> 02:22:14,720 you know 3802 02:22:19,270 --> 02:22:18,880 and so i could make uh make up all kinds 3803 02:22:22,389 --> 02:22:19,280 of 3804 02:22:24,550 --> 02:22:22,399 excuses i could find every excuse 3805 02:22:26,870 --> 02:22:24,560 in the world to say i don't have 3806 02:22:28,790 --> 02:22:26,880 something because i'm so and so and so 3807 02:22:31,349 --> 02:22:28,800 you know but i always would then find 3808 02:22:33,670 --> 02:22:31,359 myself lying to myself because 3809 02:22:35,429 --> 02:22:33,680 everything i have and everything i don't 3810 02:22:37,110 --> 02:22:35,439 have is because of me 3811 02:22:39,429 --> 02:22:37,120 everything that i've achieved is because 3812 02:22:41,590 --> 02:22:39,439 of my own you know mindset because of 3813 02:22:42,230 --> 02:22:41,600 what i wanted to do in life and go about 3814 02:22:43,670 --> 02:22:42,240 doing 3815 02:22:45,429 --> 02:22:43,680 you know and everything that i don't 3816 02:22:47,590 --> 02:22:45,439 have is that because i missed out 3817 02:22:48,870 --> 02:22:47,600 because i was lazy and i didn't take up 3818 02:22:51,030 --> 02:22:48,880 any opportunity 3819 02:22:52,309 --> 02:22:51,040 or didn't take up the opportunity that 3820 02:22:56,550 --> 02:22:52,319 was offered to me 3821 02:23:00,630 --> 02:22:59,190 to kind of pull this all back together 3822 02:23:03,830 --> 02:23:00,640 again 3823 02:23:04,950 --> 02:23:03,840 that's my mindset of how i am and how i 3824 02:23:07,349 --> 02:23:04,960 will always be 3825 02:23:09,429 --> 02:23:07,359 you know and so when i see all these 3826 02:23:09,910 --> 02:23:09,439 things going on on the planet i just see 3827 02:23:13,830 --> 02:23:09,920 a lot 3828 02:23:17,110 --> 02:23:13,840 that 3829 02:23:20,309 --> 02:23:17,120 there was no one else to teach or show 3830 02:23:22,469 --> 02:23:20,319 otherwise to say that no matter 3831 02:23:23,750 --> 02:23:22,479 how much how much difficulties you have 3832 02:23:25,750 --> 02:23:23,760 and adversity 3833 02:23:27,270 --> 02:23:25,760 that you can overcome it because that's 3834 02:23:30,309 --> 02:23:27,280 what always you know 3835 02:23:31,830 --> 02:23:30,319 made any great family great you know 3836 02:23:33,030 --> 02:23:31,840 that's what always made a great 3837 02:23:34,550 --> 02:23:33,040 individual great 3838 02:23:36,150 --> 02:23:34,560 you know the overcoming of this 3839 02:23:38,070 --> 02:23:36,160 adversity and made them 3840 02:23:40,070 --> 02:23:38,080 that much better for it it gave them the 3841 02:23:42,950 --> 02:23:40,080 life experiences and the wisdom 3842 02:23:44,309 --> 02:23:42,960 to now know what it is that held them 3843 02:23:47,270 --> 02:23:44,319 back to begin with 3844 02:23:48,630 --> 02:23:47,280 you know and so anyway how long this 3845 02:23:51,030 --> 02:23:48,640 will take for the planet 3846 02:23:52,389 --> 02:23:51,040 in england and america and everywhere 3847 02:23:53,190 --> 02:23:52,399 else where the different protests are 3848 02:23:55,429 --> 02:23:53,200 going on 3849 02:23:56,309 --> 02:23:55,439 to put it to work out i don't know but 3850 02:23:59,190 --> 02:23:56,319 that energy 3851 02:24:00,150 --> 02:23:59,200 has been foretold long time ago that it 3852 02:24:02,550 --> 02:24:00,160 will happen 3853 02:24:03,590 --> 02:24:02,560 that it was going to happen that it will 3854 02:24:05,750 --> 02:24:03,600 come to the 3855 02:24:06,710 --> 02:24:05,760 forefront so secrets of governments are 3856 02:24:08,950 --> 02:24:06,720 coming out 3857 02:24:11,030 --> 02:24:08,960 uh disagreements within you know 3858 02:24:12,950 --> 02:24:11,040 countries and societies and even within 3859 02:24:14,150 --> 02:24:12,960 each communities are going to come out 3860 02:24:15,990 --> 02:24:14,160 and have been out 3861 02:24:17,910 --> 02:24:16,000 you know and so we're going to have to 3862 02:24:20,389 --> 02:24:17,920 deal with it in one way or another 3863 02:24:21,830 --> 02:24:20,399 i hope it doesn't develop to that point 3864 02:24:24,950 --> 02:24:21,840 to where we will be more of 3865 02:24:28,309 --> 02:24:24,960 armed conflict you know but i hope that 3866 02:24:31,830 --> 02:24:28,319 you know um however it began 3867 02:24:34,230 --> 02:24:31,840 that it can also you know resolve itself 3868 02:24:35,030 --> 02:24:34,240 peacefully and that is that is my my 3869 02:24:38,070 --> 02:24:35,040 hope my 3870 02:24:42,950 --> 02:24:41,190 okay sorry 3871 02:24:54,389 --> 02:24:42,960 you hit the topic what i just felt like 3872 02:24:59,670 --> 02:24:57,990 uh the question so hazel says i think 3873 02:25:01,510 --> 02:24:59,680 you should feel very proud of yourself 3874 02:25:03,110 --> 02:25:01,520 coming from that life and 3875 02:25:05,670 --> 02:25:03,120 doing all this to help all of us 3876 02:25:07,910 --> 02:25:05,680 understand more well thank you 3877 02:25:09,590 --> 02:25:07,920 thank you hazel and i appreciate you too 3878 02:25:09,990 --> 02:25:09,600 you know and everyone else that that 3879 02:25:13,429 --> 02:25:10,000 logs 3880 02:25:16,790 --> 02:25:13,439 in because um it is you guys is 3881 02:25:17,830 --> 02:25:16,800 watching um sharing i always encourage 3882 02:25:20,710 --> 02:25:17,840 people to share 3883 02:25:21,190 --> 02:25:20,720 like the channel you know or subscribe 3884 02:25:23,270 --> 02:25:21,200 that 3885 02:25:24,550 --> 02:25:23,280 just helps kind of you know spread the 3886 02:25:28,070 --> 02:25:24,560 message out there 3887 02:25:29,990 --> 02:25:28,080 and um you know i thanks to 3888 02:25:31,590 --> 02:25:30,000 my very understanding wife who's taking 3889 02:25:33,270 --> 02:25:31,600 care of all the kids right now 3890 02:25:35,349 --> 02:25:33,280 you know she you know wants me to 3891 02:25:38,230 --> 02:25:35,359 continue doing this because 3892 02:25:40,630 --> 02:25:38,240 from her family lineage and having been 3893 02:25:42,950 --> 02:25:40,640 constantly in this kind of ufo 3894 02:25:44,070 --> 02:25:42,960 alien type environment she understands 3895 02:25:46,790 --> 02:25:44,080 the importance of it 3896 02:25:49,349 --> 02:25:46,800 so she does what she has to do at the 3897 02:25:52,710 --> 02:25:49,359 house while i do here in the studio what 3898 02:25:53,349 --> 02:25:52,720 what i have to do to just kind of be the 3899 02:25:55,830 --> 02:25:53,359 next 3900 02:25:57,670 --> 02:25:55,840 you know breadcrumb from somebody you 3901 02:25:59,910 --> 02:25:57,680 know for to be the next next piece to 3902 02:26:00,469 --> 02:25:59,920 say oh okay this connects this dot for 3903 02:26:02,790 --> 02:26:00,479 me 3904 02:26:03,990 --> 02:26:02,800 or that interview that i saw on you for 3905 02:26:06,630 --> 02:26:04,000 have connected this 3906 02:26:07,510 --> 02:26:06,640 you know for me and so on and so that is 3907 02:26:10,469 --> 02:26:07,520 my hope 3908 02:26:11,590 --> 02:26:10,479 if if anything you know and so i of 3909 02:26:13,990 --> 02:26:11,600 course wish i could do 3910 02:26:15,510 --> 02:26:14,000 more you know but i'm only limited to 3911 02:26:19,750 --> 02:26:15,520 whatever 3912 02:26:21,270 --> 02:26:19,760 as you guys already know i got a 3913 02:26:23,750 --> 02:26:21,280 full-time job so 3914 02:26:25,590 --> 02:26:23,760 i can only do this part-time of course i 3915 02:26:26,309 --> 02:26:25,600 wish i could do this full-time and and 3916 02:26:28,469 --> 02:26:26,319 just get 3917 02:26:30,630 --> 02:26:28,479 to do this every every day of the week 3918 02:26:32,790 --> 02:26:30,640 and try to have a guest you know every 3919 02:26:34,710 --> 02:26:32,800 every other day or you know whatever the 3920 02:26:35,030 --> 02:26:34,720 plan might come up you know i just don't 3921 02:26:38,150 --> 02:26:35,040 know 3922 02:26:41,030 --> 02:26:38,160 appreciate 3923 02:26:42,469 --> 02:26:41,040 all of you for tuning in to be from all 3924 02:26:45,110 --> 02:26:42,479 over the world to be in 3925 02:26:46,630 --> 02:26:45,120 france to be in spain to be to be in 3926 02:26:47,429 --> 02:26:46,640 south africa and all these different 3927 02:26:49,429 --> 02:26:47,439 places 3928 02:26:50,790 --> 02:26:49,439 you know so thank you for for doing that 3929 02:26:52,230 --> 02:26:50,800 because it's probably the latest hell 3930 02:27:09,910 --> 02:26:52,240 right now and you're up 3931 02:27:15,110 --> 02:27:13,910 all right so i'm not seeing any more 3932 02:27:17,910 --> 02:27:15,120 questions 3933 02:27:20,630 --> 02:27:17,920 so unless uh someone else logs into 3934 02:27:22,870 --> 02:27:20,640 telegram to maybe want to talk to me 3935 02:27:24,950 --> 02:27:22,880 within the next you know few minutes 3936 02:27:26,870 --> 02:27:24,960 here or if there's more questions on 3937 02:27:29,990 --> 02:27:26,880 chat i think 3938 02:27:31,349 --> 02:27:30,000 i'm gonna then let it be here and uh or 3939 02:27:33,510 --> 02:27:31,359 finish up here but 3940 02:27:34,389 --> 02:27:33,520 basically just want to uh remind you 3941 02:27:37,349 --> 02:27:34,399 guys against 3942 02:27:37,910 --> 02:27:37,359 that friday is going to be a very 3943 02:27:39,670 --> 02:27:37,920 different 3944 02:27:41,030 --> 02:27:39,680 show than i've done before and it would 3945 02:27:43,349 --> 02:27:41,040 be a very 3946 02:27:45,270 --> 02:27:43,359 concentrated in-depth discussion about 3947 02:27:46,469 --> 02:27:45,280 psychedelics and very specific 3948 02:27:48,230 --> 02:27:46,479 psychedelics 3949 02:27:49,830 --> 02:27:48,240 and the other part that's going to be 3950 02:27:50,550 --> 02:27:49,840 very different is that i'm actually 3951 02:27:52,870 --> 02:27:50,560 going to have 3952 02:27:53,670 --> 02:27:52,880 a real life person sitting right across 3953 02:27:56,710 --> 02:27:53,680 from me 3954 02:27:59,030 --> 02:27:56,720 and another one dialing in from 3955 02:28:00,550 --> 02:27:59,040 telegram so it will be an in-person and 3956 02:28:03,670 --> 02:28:00,560 a phone conversation 3957 02:28:06,790 --> 02:28:03,680 to basically um share whatever 3958 02:28:08,550 --> 02:28:06,800 we know and whatever we've experienced 3959 02:28:10,070 --> 02:28:08,560 on these different on these different 3960 02:28:13,910 --> 02:28:10,080 journeys so i hope 3961 02:28:17,110 --> 02:28:13,920 you tune in and um i hope that 3962 02:28:18,870 --> 02:28:17,120 um you find it useful this is not 3963 02:28:20,950 --> 02:28:18,880 to say that all of you have to go out 3964 02:28:22,630 --> 02:28:20,960 and do psychedelics if anything just 3965 02:28:24,309 --> 02:28:22,640 look at it as entertainment 3966 02:28:26,469 --> 02:28:24,319 you know something if you've been 3967 02:28:29,910 --> 02:28:26,479 curious about just another 3968 02:28:32,389 --> 02:28:29,920 you know three point of views that 3969 02:28:33,910 --> 02:28:32,399 you can possibly take in about this and 3970 02:28:36,309 --> 02:28:33,920 so that um 3971 02:28:38,309 --> 02:28:36,319 you know i always find that people have 3972 02:28:41,110 --> 02:28:38,319 a lot of you know great interests 3973 02:28:41,910 --> 02:28:41,120 but there's sometimes some negative 3974 02:28:43,670 --> 02:28:41,920 connotation 3975 02:28:45,030 --> 02:28:43,680 applied to it and i'm hoping we can 3976 02:28:47,830 --> 02:28:45,040 discuss those and 3977 02:28:48,630 --> 02:28:47,840 clear those out just sharing more 3978 02:28:52,309 --> 02:28:48,640 experience 3979 02:28:55,429 --> 02:28:52,319 doesn't have to 3980 02:28:58,070 --> 02:28:55,439 not 3981 02:28:58,870 --> 02:28:58,080 in any way condoning it you know that 3982 02:29:00,389 --> 02:28:58,880 saying that 3983 02:29:02,389 --> 02:29:00,399 some of you out that go and you have to 3984 02:29:05,590 --> 02:29:02,399 do it this way it was a 3985 02:29:08,230 --> 02:29:05,600 life choice made by me and 3986 02:29:09,910 --> 02:29:08,240 these other uh guests i'm gonna have on 3987 02:29:10,630 --> 02:29:09,920 then we'll discuss it and what it did 3988 02:29:13,429 --> 02:29:10,640 for us 3989 02:29:15,750 --> 02:29:13,439 and then you guess take it or leave it 3990 02:29:20,830 --> 02:29:15,760 basically 3991 02:29:23,429 --> 02:29:20,840 so all right well thank you all 3992 02:29:23,990 --> 02:29:23,439 um i'm sorry i see one more question 3993 02:29:27,190 --> 02:29:24,000 here 3994 02:29:28,469 --> 02:29:27,200 okay shelley smith okay you you're using 3995 02:29:30,309 --> 02:29:28,479 three stars but they're like three 3996 02:29:32,710 --> 02:29:30,319 golden stars is throwing me off but 3997 02:29:34,469 --> 02:29:32,720 at least now i know that it's meant to 3998 02:29:36,070 --> 02:29:34,479 be the question 3999 02:29:38,790 --> 02:29:36,080 or at least the state misses thank you 4000 02:29:41,429 --> 02:29:38,800 for that what do you think about um 4001 02:29:43,510 --> 02:29:41,439 a handful of guys who are on the talk 4002 02:29:44,790 --> 02:29:43,520 circa discussing the secret space 4003 02:29:48,150 --> 02:29:44,800 program and 4004 02:29:48,630 --> 02:29:48,160 recount being super soldiers for the 20 4005 02:29:51,910 --> 02:29:48,640 40 4006 02:29:55,910 --> 02:29:51,920 60 and back you know that's very 4007 02:30:02,309 --> 02:29:59,349 time is very very um weird 4008 02:30:04,950 --> 02:30:02,319 to begin with when you try to analyze it 4009 02:30:06,630 --> 02:30:04,960 you know with your head when you start 4010 02:30:08,550 --> 02:30:06,640 kind of having these interdimensional 4011 02:30:11,990 --> 02:30:08,560 experiences times becomes 4012 02:30:15,670 --> 02:30:12,000 weirder even more you know about uh 4013 02:30:19,030 --> 02:30:15,680 the the the past present um 4014 02:30:22,550 --> 02:30:19,040 future is is not so much these distant 4015 02:30:25,510 --> 02:30:22,560 concepts from each other and so um 4016 02:30:27,190 --> 02:30:25,520 just having these different experiences 4017 02:30:30,630 --> 02:30:27,200 were related to me 4018 02:30:34,309 --> 02:30:30,640 and whatever i could learn i did but 4019 02:30:36,870 --> 02:30:34,319 it didn't go beyond that that aspect 4020 02:30:37,510 --> 02:30:36,880 so just knowing what i've experienced 4021 02:30:39,670 --> 02:30:37,520 myself 4022 02:30:41,349 --> 02:30:39,680 it is you know i wouldn't be surprised 4023 02:30:42,630 --> 02:30:41,359 if there was some kind of program out 4024 02:30:43,670 --> 02:30:42,640 there and i think this is what you're 4025 02:30:46,790 --> 02:30:43,680 referring to 4026 02:30:49,910 --> 02:30:46,800 where they basically um 4027 02:30:50,790 --> 02:30:49,920 you know go back in in the future go to 4028 02:30:53,030 --> 02:30:50,800 the future 4029 02:30:54,150 --> 02:30:53,040 and then back i believe is uh if if i'm 4030 02:30:55,750 --> 02:30:54,160 not mistaken 4031 02:30:57,429 --> 02:30:55,760 to do whatever they're doing and then 4032 02:30:59,190 --> 02:30:57,439 coming back to current time 4033 02:31:01,270 --> 02:30:59,200 you know or reverting them back 4034 02:31:03,830 --> 02:31:01,280 physically and it's so weird to 4035 02:31:05,510 --> 02:31:03,840 uh we might get into that um actually we 4036 02:31:08,230 --> 02:31:05,520 will get into that on friday 4037 02:31:09,429 --> 02:31:08,240 regarding um aging and bodies and the 4038 02:31:11,910 --> 02:31:09,439 perception 4039 02:31:13,270 --> 02:31:11,920 from these different realms you know how 4040 02:31:16,309 --> 02:31:13,280 how weird it is 4041 02:31:17,190 --> 02:31:16,319 to to have this you know aging aging 4042 02:31:20,710 --> 02:31:17,200 body and how 4043 02:31:22,389 --> 02:31:20,720 basically it's just a um it's a concept 4044 02:31:24,150 --> 02:31:22,399 of your higher self 4045 02:31:25,590 --> 02:31:24,160 that's materialized in this physical 4046 02:31:28,150 --> 02:31:25,600 world that 4047 02:31:29,429 --> 02:31:28,160 if it was if it was your life's path 4048 02:31:31,270 --> 02:31:29,439 that you could 4049 02:31:33,110 --> 02:31:31,280 literally make changes to your body as 4050 02:31:34,790 --> 02:31:33,120 crazy as it sounds i realize what i'm 4051 02:31:37,429 --> 02:31:34,800 saying and how silly this is 4052 02:31:38,710 --> 02:31:37,439 you know but some things i just can't 4053 02:31:41,110 --> 02:31:38,720 look away from or not 4054 02:31:42,150 --> 02:31:41,120 tell you about you know as crazy as it 4055 02:31:45,429 --> 02:31:42,160 is there are 4056 02:31:45,830 --> 02:31:45,439 you know um possibilities that if you 4057 02:31:48,230 --> 02:31:45,840 were 4058 02:31:48,950 --> 02:31:48,240 truly in tune on that extent to that 4059 02:31:51,750 --> 02:31:48,960 level 4060 02:31:53,510 --> 02:31:51,760 you know that you can make these changes 4061 02:31:54,389 --> 02:31:53,520 to your body and i wouldn't be surprised 4062 02:31:57,510 --> 02:31:54,399 if there weren't 4063 02:31:58,309 --> 02:31:57,520 already some kind of machines created by 4064 02:32:00,950 --> 02:31:58,319 these different 4065 02:32:01,910 --> 02:32:00,960 you know groups that then make it make 4066 02:32:05,510 --> 02:32:01,920 those changes 4067 02:32:08,710 --> 02:32:05,520 um uh what is called the aging 4068 02:32:10,230 --> 02:32:08,720 uh using those machines because as i was 4069 02:32:12,070 --> 02:32:10,240 mentioned in the very beginning 4070 02:32:14,230 --> 02:32:12,080 of the show we always think that the 4071 02:32:16,150 --> 02:32:14,240 government or always been said that 4072 02:32:17,590 --> 02:32:16,160 from whatever the greatest and greatest 4073 02:32:20,630 --> 02:32:17,600 technology is that 4074 02:32:22,309 --> 02:32:20,640 they're at least 50 years ahead well 4075 02:32:24,710 --> 02:32:22,319 you know in my personal experience it's 4076 02:32:28,870 --> 02:32:24,720 more like you know 4077 02:32:32,230 --> 02:32:28,880 hundreds of years if not more and so 4078 02:32:34,950 --> 02:32:32,240 it would be very you know very cool if 4079 02:32:35,750 --> 02:32:34,960 some of this stuff would could would 4080 02:32:50,830 --> 02:32:35,760 come out 4081 02:32:50,840 --> 02:32:58,469 um 4082 02:33:04,790 --> 02:33:02,790 uh paul crocker said in this world 4083 02:33:05,990 --> 02:33:04,800 you are exceptional is giving of 4084 02:33:08,870 --> 02:33:06,000 yourself thank you 4085 02:33:09,349 --> 02:33:08,880 um are you referring to me or you're 4086 02:33:10,790 --> 02:33:09,359 just 4087 02:33:13,429 --> 02:33:10,800 saying in general i'm sorry i didn't 4088 02:33:16,950 --> 02:33:13,439 quite understand and um 4089 02:33:20,389 --> 02:33:16,960 monocle of mayhem yes i i heard of 4090 02:33:22,150 --> 02:33:20,399 20 to 20 as well but the 40-60 4091 02:33:23,910 --> 02:33:22,160 is new to me but it doesn't matter 4092 02:33:27,750 --> 02:33:23,920 really when you think about 4093 02:33:31,670 --> 02:33:29,750 uh verita vega says you have a very 4094 02:33:32,790 --> 02:33:31,680 professional show i appreciate it thank 4095 02:33:34,710 --> 02:33:32,800 you for 4096 02:33:36,150 --> 02:33:34,720 your wife for helping behind the scenes 4097 02:33:39,190 --> 02:33:36,160 too and thank you 4098 02:33:39,429 --> 02:33:39,200 yes i i thank her every day you know and 4099 02:33:49,190 --> 02:33:39,439 i 4100 02:33:50,950 --> 02:33:49,200 don't 4101 02:33:52,710 --> 02:33:50,960 you know it's always it's they want 4102 02:33:53,429 --> 02:33:52,720 something they cry they you know it's 4103 02:33:57,750 --> 02:33:53,439 like 4104 02:33:59,830 --> 02:33:57,760 okay come come here okay what is it 4105 02:34:01,510 --> 02:33:59,840 just you know and then start throwing 4106 02:34:04,150 --> 02:34:01,520 tempeh dentures and all that 4107 02:34:04,790 --> 02:34:04,160 you know and i would deal with aliens in 4108 02:34:06,150 --> 02:34:04,800 any day 4109 02:34:07,750 --> 02:34:06,160 no matter how physically and 4110 02:34:09,750 --> 02:34:07,760 psychologically that would be hard to me 4111 02:34:12,389 --> 02:34:09,760 compared to that so i'm very 4112 02:34:12,790 --> 02:34:12,399 grateful that you know she's you know 4113 02:34:15,990 --> 02:34:12,800 she's 4114 02:34:18,230 --> 02:34:16,000 watching right now 4115 02:34:19,830 --> 02:34:18,240 too partly also because she's kind of 4116 02:34:21,670 --> 02:34:19,840 like my feedback if there's something 4117 02:34:22,870 --> 02:34:21,680 going on with the show like if my sink 4118 02:34:25,270 --> 02:34:22,880 is off or something 4119 02:34:26,710 --> 02:34:25,280 she'll let me know on on on text so that 4120 02:34:28,309 --> 02:34:26,720 i can make some corrections 4121 02:34:30,230 --> 02:34:28,319 while she's watching at the same time so 4122 02:34:31,910 --> 02:34:30,240 i know she sees it so 4123 02:34:44,950 --> 02:34:31,920 babe thank you very much i appreciate 4124 02:34:47,990 --> 02:34:44,960 you very much 4125 02:34:48,550 --> 02:34:48,000 uh fab 22 says usa is indeed a beautiful 4126 02:34:50,790 --> 02:34:48,560 space 4127 02:34:53,830 --> 02:34:50,800 and the world is watching how all this 4128 02:34:56,950 --> 02:34:53,840 develops and hopefully 4129 02:35:00,870 --> 02:34:56,960 hopefully usa will 4130 02:35:05,429 --> 02:35:00,880 demonstrate wisdom and be 4131 02:35:12,150 --> 02:35:08,469 positive steps to unify all 4132 02:35:15,190 --> 02:35:12,160 well i you know the the usa is a 4133 02:35:18,230 --> 02:35:15,200 very diverse place so if anything 4134 02:35:19,750 --> 02:35:18,240 new to be worked out it would be the 4135 02:35:21,349 --> 02:35:19,760 united states because 4136 02:35:23,429 --> 02:35:21,359 a lot of these countries you know 4137 02:35:24,950 --> 02:35:23,439 although they have immigrants and i've 4138 02:35:26,550 --> 02:35:24,960 experienced that myself they're still 4139 02:35:30,309 --> 02:35:26,560 very much homogenized 4140 02:35:33,110 --> 02:35:30,319 you know and so um you know by having 4141 02:35:34,630 --> 02:35:33,120 more of this mix more conflict that's 4142 02:35:36,230 --> 02:35:34,640 been happening in the united states 4143 02:35:38,950 --> 02:35:36,240 whatever gets resolved 4144 02:35:39,990 --> 02:35:38,960 could could very well be the the 4145 02:35:42,870 --> 02:35:40,000 template 4146 02:35:44,469 --> 02:35:42,880 to be then take place and take hold in 4147 02:35:45,910 --> 02:35:44,479 these other countries to say okay this 4148 02:35:56,389 --> 02:35:45,920 is how we can deal with 4149 02:35:59,990 --> 02:35:58,389 yeah veritas says reminds me of captain 4150 02:36:02,469 --> 02:36:00,000 captain america concept how they 4151 02:36:05,429 --> 02:36:02,479 experimented on him to become 4152 02:36:07,110 --> 02:36:05,439 ageless and powerful yeah it's actually 4153 02:36:13,110 --> 02:36:07,120 um 4154 02:36:14,389 --> 02:36:13,120 uh interview not that long ago it was 4155 02:36:16,630 --> 02:36:14,399 over over the phone 4156 02:36:19,190 --> 02:36:16,640 and i touched on one of the the subjects 4157 02:36:22,389 --> 02:36:19,200 which uh which was um 4158 02:36:23,429 --> 02:36:22,399 um the consciousness the collective 4159 02:36:26,870 --> 02:36:23,439 consciousness 4160 02:36:29,990 --> 02:36:26,880 and anytime you see movies that are very 4161 02:36:32,230 --> 02:36:30,000 close to what's going on from the human 4162 02:36:34,070 --> 02:36:32,240 mind you think like oh this is the cabal 4163 02:36:34,630 --> 02:36:34,080 or the hidden group telling us something 4164 02:36:37,030 --> 02:36:34,640 or 4165 02:36:38,870 --> 02:36:37,040 their they're finally releasing some 4166 02:36:40,550 --> 02:36:38,880 information in this cryptic way 4167 02:36:42,790 --> 02:36:40,560 like the matrix and all these different 4168 02:36:43,830 --> 02:36:42,800 movies but uh from this higher 4169 02:36:46,550 --> 02:36:43,840 perspective it's 4170 02:36:47,590 --> 02:36:46,560 you have your collective consciousness 4171 02:36:51,830 --> 02:36:47,600 that then 4172 02:36:54,630 --> 02:36:51,840 um basically uh you know plays 4173 02:36:55,590 --> 02:36:54,640 out certain scenarios that translate 4174 02:36:58,309 --> 02:36:55,600 into 4175 02:36:59,670 --> 02:36:58,319 let's say um a director or a 4176 02:37:01,830 --> 02:36:59,680 screenwriter getting an 4177 02:37:03,590 --> 02:37:01,840 idea to then eventually makes it a big 4178 02:37:05,590 --> 02:37:03,600 screen to where now 4179 02:37:06,790 --> 02:37:05,600 we can deal with a concept or idea 4180 02:37:09,110 --> 02:37:06,800 watching a movie 4181 02:37:09,910 --> 02:37:09,120 while we're still at peace and quiet and 4182 02:37:12,389 --> 02:37:09,920 so we don't 4183 02:37:14,150 --> 02:37:12,399 necessarily have to be neck deep in in 4184 02:37:15,349 --> 02:37:14,160 that experience you know where it would 4185 02:37:17,990 --> 02:37:15,359 be very traumatic 4186 02:37:19,270 --> 02:37:18,000 so then we can watch a movie and kind of 4187 02:37:21,030 --> 02:37:19,280 deal with and say 4188 02:37:22,710 --> 02:37:21,040 do we want to collectively go this way 4189 02:37:24,550 --> 02:37:22,720 or not you know and that's 4190 02:37:26,950 --> 02:37:24,560 how i've always looked at it you know 4191 02:37:29,750 --> 02:37:26,960 instead of looking at it as this 4192 02:37:35,030 --> 02:37:29,760 hidden hand kind of controlling what you 4193 02:37:42,630 --> 02:37:38,070 oh okay give me a second nathan is 4194 02:37:44,150 --> 02:37:42,640 on hey nathan how you doing i'm sorry i 4195 02:37:45,030 --> 02:37:44,160 didn't see you you were raising your 4196 02:37:46,790 --> 02:37:45,040 hand i was in 4197 02:37:48,070 --> 02:37:46,800 in the middle of my conversation how are 4198 02:37:51,510 --> 02:37:48,080 you 4199 02:37:54,550 --> 02:37:51,520 fine 4200 02:37:57,270 --> 02:37:54,560 just how's it going very good 4201 02:37:58,150 --> 02:37:57,280 so um yeah i chimed in i got on a little 4202 02:37:59,349 --> 02:37:58,160 late today 4203 02:38:01,190 --> 02:37:59,359 and i don't know and it sounded like you 4204 02:38:02,309 --> 02:38:01,200 guys were talking a little about secret 4205 02:38:05,030 --> 02:38:02,319 space programs 4206 02:38:05,910 --> 02:38:05,040 um has anybody what ever happened to 4207 02:38:07,429 --> 02:38:05,920 corey goode 4208 02:38:09,110 --> 02:38:07,439 are you familiar with corey good and all 4209 02:38:11,349 --> 02:38:09,120 that disclosure that he was doing 4210 02:38:12,870 --> 02:38:11,359 did it turn out that that he was did he 4211 02:38:16,150 --> 02:38:12,880 just disappear was he talking 4212 02:38:19,429 --> 02:38:16,160 truth to any of it or or is it total 4213 02:38:20,230 --> 02:38:19,439 bunker well i know i know i know of him 4214 02:38:22,389 --> 02:38:20,240 but i didn't 4215 02:38:24,230 --> 02:38:22,399 follow him very much i think was it 4216 02:38:26,389 --> 02:38:24,240 called he was talking regarding 4217 02:38:28,070 --> 02:38:26,399 was alien group the blue avians i 4218 02:38:31,510 --> 02:38:28,080 believe and i don't 4219 02:38:34,469 --> 02:38:31,520 honestly i haven't followed it uh 4220 02:38:34,870 --> 02:38:34,479 i haven't followed it and i i just you 4221 02:38:37,590 --> 02:38:34,880 know 4222 02:38:39,030 --> 02:38:37,600 i can't speak much more he was i just 4223 02:38:39,670 --> 02:38:39,040 know that there was something going on 4224 02:38:42,870 --> 02:38:39,680 between 4225 02:38:44,309 --> 02:38:42,880 him david wilcock and all that but i had 4226 02:38:47,030 --> 02:38:44,319 too much 4227 02:38:48,309 --> 02:38:47,040 uh that's right yeah this is a while ago 4228 02:38:51,510 --> 02:38:48,319 now because he uh 4229 02:38:53,910 --> 02:38:51,520 uh he he called you know be he said the 4230 02:38:55,429 --> 02:38:53,920 blue avians and all that were working 4231 02:38:56,150 --> 02:38:55,439 with the white hats and that was the 4232 02:38:57,590 --> 02:38:56,160 that kind of 4233 02:38:59,830 --> 02:38:57,600 group that was talking about white hats 4234 02:39:02,389 --> 02:38:59,840 and uh and the other guys the 4235 02:39:03,429 --> 02:39:02,399 the bad guys and then uh they even like 4236 02:39:05,670 --> 02:39:03,439 before i remember 4237 02:39:07,830 --> 02:39:05,680 trump got elected he actually he called 4238 02:39:09,110 --> 02:39:07,840 that the blue aliens were saying that 4239 02:39:11,670 --> 02:39:09,120 and nobody could believe it at the time 4240 02:39:14,950 --> 02:39:11,680 they're like no no you mean you mean the 4241 02:39:17,910 --> 02:39:14,960 you know the the property mogul the 4242 02:39:19,750 --> 02:39:17,920 the star of uh what's it called the 4243 02:39:21,590 --> 02:39:19,760 apprentice is gonna be a president no 4244 02:39:22,550 --> 02:39:21,600 way but it absolutely happened so that's 4245 02:39:23,670 --> 02:39:22,560 why i kind of 4246 02:39:25,670 --> 02:39:23,680 started listening to hear what he had to 4247 02:39:27,590 --> 02:39:25,680 say but then he just kind of disappeared 4248 02:39:29,349 --> 02:39:27,600 so i didn't know so i guess you haven't 4249 02:39:32,630 --> 02:39:29,359 heard anything then yeah no well 4250 02:39:34,790 --> 02:39:32,640 you know um it's that 4251 02:39:36,630 --> 02:39:34,800 because whatever personal experiences 4252 02:39:39,110 --> 02:39:36,640 finally kind of weighing down for me and 4253 02:39:41,830 --> 02:39:39,120 then like family life began 4254 02:39:43,190 --> 02:39:41,840 um i concentrated on that and things 4255 02:39:45,190 --> 02:39:43,200 kind of took a 4256 02:39:47,349 --> 02:39:45,200 step back for me to do what i needed to 4257 02:39:47,910 --> 02:39:47,359 do up until the point where i started 4258 02:39:53,910 --> 02:39:47,920 the 4259 02:39:55,750 --> 02:39:53,920 when he was more prevalent i just i just 4260 02:39:58,309 --> 02:39:55,760 know of him and i didn't follow up 4261 02:39:58,950 --> 02:39:58,319 on anymore regarding that you know it's 4262 02:40:00,150 --> 02:39:58,960 i'm sure 4263 02:40:01,590 --> 02:40:00,160 he has this channel out there and i 4264 02:40:02,630 --> 02:40:01,600 always encourage people to check out 4265 02:40:06,230 --> 02:40:02,640 different people 4266 02:40:08,150 --> 02:40:06,240 as well you know because um you know 4267 02:40:09,830 --> 02:40:08,160 what i do it's not the all be all 4268 02:40:10,630 --> 02:40:09,840 there's other people other information 4269 02:40:12,950 --> 02:40:10,640 and so 4270 02:40:13,830 --> 02:40:12,960 for the for the sake of truth and and 4271 02:40:15,990 --> 02:40:13,840 and uh 4272 02:40:16,950 --> 02:40:16,000 you know reaching out and and finding 4273 02:40:18,870 --> 02:40:16,960 information go 4274 02:40:20,389 --> 02:40:18,880 every path you can possibly take you 4275 02:40:23,510 --> 02:40:20,399 know don't just stick to one 4276 02:40:24,230 --> 02:40:23,520 um because you know it's not how life 4277 02:40:27,269 --> 02:40:24,240 works 4278 02:40:29,670 --> 02:40:27,279 in general i find you know so just um 4279 02:40:31,349 --> 02:40:29,680 you know check check glory good out and 4280 02:40:33,030 --> 02:40:31,359 then use your own discernment 4281 02:40:34,550 --> 02:40:33,040 to what he's saying what he's telling 4282 02:40:36,309 --> 02:40:34,560 you and how it 4283 02:40:37,830 --> 02:40:36,319 could fit and what you know or how he 4284 02:40:40,790 --> 02:40:37,840 doesn't fit in what you know 4285 02:40:41,750 --> 02:40:40,800 you know um like bashar always said 4286 02:40:45,110 --> 02:40:41,760 listening to 4287 02:40:48,790 --> 02:40:45,120 you know to um um like 4288 02:40:50,630 --> 02:40:48,800 you know listening to every speaker 4289 02:40:53,590 --> 02:40:50,640 that's every you know that's ever 4290 02:40:54,230 --> 02:40:53,600 out there is kind of like uh going to a 4291 02:40:56,790 --> 02:40:54,240 restaurant 4292 02:40:58,150 --> 02:40:56,800 and ordering everything uh off the menu 4293 02:41:00,870 --> 02:40:58,160 at one time 4294 02:41:02,389 --> 02:41:00,880 you know and so you're gonna have to you 4295 02:41:04,070 --> 02:41:02,399 know make that discernment like okay 4296 02:41:06,469 --> 02:41:04,080 today i would like this but 4297 02:41:07,750 --> 02:41:06,479 tomorrow i'm gonna choose something else 4298 02:41:11,110 --> 02:41:07,760 you know and just 4299 02:41:13,349 --> 02:41:11,120 basically kind of discern it that way 4300 02:41:15,110 --> 02:41:13,359 because uh there's many people in my 4301 02:41:15,990 --> 02:41:15,120 progress before i had my own personal 4302 02:41:17,670 --> 02:41:16,000 experiences i 4303 02:41:19,510 --> 02:41:17,680 just stopped you know i was like there's 4304 02:41:20,630 --> 02:41:19,520 nothing i can really gather anymore from 4305 02:41:22,469 --> 02:41:20,640 this person because 4306 02:41:24,309 --> 02:41:22,479 they haven't given me anything i can act 4307 02:41:27,110 --> 02:41:24,319 on myself they always 4308 02:41:28,150 --> 02:41:27,120 needed me to go back to them you know 4309 02:41:30,870 --> 02:41:28,160 before this 4310 02:41:31,830 --> 02:41:30,880 latest and greatest they had sources 4311 02:41:36,630 --> 02:41:31,840 they had 4312 02:41:39,830 --> 02:41:36,640 progression was dependent on them 4313 02:41:40,309 --> 02:41:39,840 and so even then i understood that i'll 4314 02:41:41,910 --> 02:41:40,319 just 4315 02:41:43,429 --> 02:41:41,920 move on to something else you know 4316 02:41:45,670 --> 02:41:43,439 instead of 4317 02:41:47,110 --> 02:41:45,680 growing older and gray or you know 4318 02:41:49,269 --> 02:41:47,120 waiting for them to 4319 02:41:51,030 --> 02:41:49,279 finally give me this thing that i've 4320 02:41:53,830 --> 02:41:51,040 been searching for 4321 02:41:56,550 --> 02:41:53,840 you know and not a lot of people do that 4322 02:41:59,830 --> 02:41:56,560 they just want to keep on waiting uh for 4323 02:42:03,030 --> 02:41:59,840 for just this one particular group to 4324 02:42:06,550 --> 02:42:03,040 um you know group or people 4325 02:42:10,950 --> 02:42:06,560 to be the the guiding light in their 4326 02:42:15,110 --> 02:42:13,269 okay thank you and hold on one yeah one 4327 02:42:17,110 --> 02:42:15,120 quick one second uh there's um 4328 02:42:19,110 --> 02:42:17,120 shelly smith just commented saying so 4329 02:42:21,349 --> 02:42:19,120 corey good is still on the talk circuit 4330 02:42:24,550 --> 02:42:21,359 with folks like laura eisenhower 4331 02:42:27,349 --> 02:42:24,560 uh edge of wonder guys ben and rob and 4332 02:42:28,870 --> 02:42:27,359 michael sala so there's little 4333 02:42:30,870 --> 02:42:28,880 information about him 4334 02:42:32,630 --> 02:42:30,880 where he still can be found regarding 4335 02:42:36,070 --> 02:42:32,640 that 4336 02:42:38,309 --> 02:42:36,080 well um all right well nathan um 4337 02:42:41,030 --> 02:42:38,319 i guess people don't quite realize here 4338 02:42:43,190 --> 02:42:41,040 but you will be this guest coming friday 4339 02:42:45,750 --> 02:42:43,200 so i'm looking forward to seeing you in 4340 02:42:50,070 --> 02:42:48,550 likewise yeah absolutely all right well 4341 02:42:53,349 --> 02:42:50,080 we'll have plenty to talk about on 4342 02:42:56,790 --> 02:42:55,110 okay all right well uh yeah thanks 4343 02:43:01,510 --> 02:42:56,800 thanks for chiming in again i'll see you 4344 02:43:09,269 --> 02:43:04,630 okay peace off now 4345 02:43:11,990 --> 02:43:09,279 let's see here uh fab 22 4346 02:43:13,670 --> 02:43:12,000 do you feel our governments are not that 4347 02:43:16,630 --> 02:43:13,680 bad and they just 4348 02:43:17,429 --> 02:43:16,640 act via necessary evil rather than just 4349 02:43:20,710 --> 02:43:17,439 plain 4350 02:43:24,070 --> 02:43:20,720 covert means and 4351 02:43:24,469 --> 02:43:24,080 outright lies there are so many aspects 4352 02:43:28,550 --> 02:43:24,479 and 4353 02:43:32,950 --> 02:43:28,560 big brother does does cares 4354 02:43:34,230 --> 02:43:32,960 well so this is probably a topic that's 4355 02:43:37,110 --> 02:43:34,240 going to be 4356 02:43:39,349 --> 02:43:37,120 covered on friday because there was one 4357 02:43:42,070 --> 02:43:39,359 particular experience that i had 4358 02:43:42,389 --> 02:43:42,080 on one of my psychedelic trips and this 4359 02:43:45,670 --> 02:43:42,399 was 4360 02:43:48,830 --> 02:43:45,680 uh basically uh learning about 4361 02:43:50,469 --> 02:43:48,840 what what authority is and so one 4362 02:43:52,870 --> 02:43:50,479 explanation um 4363 02:43:54,790 --> 02:43:52,880 uh that was conveyed to me it wasn't 4364 02:43:56,950 --> 02:43:54,800 told it was like it's conveyed with 4365 02:43:59,030 --> 02:43:56,960 feelings and experiences and examples 4366 02:44:00,870 --> 02:43:59,040 towards really ingrained in you 4367 02:44:02,389 --> 02:44:00,880 and i was seeing the whole planet as a 4368 02:44:05,110 --> 02:44:02,399 whole and 4369 02:44:06,070 --> 02:44:05,120 i could see these different energies and 4370 02:44:09,030 --> 02:44:06,080 different colors 4371 02:44:10,389 --> 02:44:09,040 to where there's aspect of society 4372 02:44:12,950 --> 02:44:10,399 that's 4373 02:44:14,630 --> 02:44:12,960 willing to move to this next 4374 02:44:17,910 --> 02:44:14,640 understanding of who we 4375 02:44:19,110 --> 02:44:17,920 are as beings what are we doing here to 4376 02:44:21,269 --> 02:44:19,120 kind of get out of this 4377 02:44:23,030 --> 02:44:21,279 amnesia state to what we can't remember 4378 02:44:24,389 --> 02:44:23,040 we only remember lifetimes 4379 02:44:25,910 --> 02:44:24,399 you know and we don't know what happened 4380 02:44:27,510 --> 02:44:25,920 before we don't remember what after 4381 02:44:29,910 --> 02:44:27,520 whatever happened after 4382 02:44:31,990 --> 02:44:29,920 and so there's this group that's willing 4383 02:44:34,950 --> 02:44:32,000 to move forward but then there's another 4384 02:44:35,990 --> 02:44:34,960 aspect that's too afraid to to even 4385 02:44:39,349 --> 02:44:36,000 approach that 4386 02:44:40,070 --> 02:44:39,359 and so that aspect then um translates 4387 02:44:45,990 --> 02:44:40,080 into 4388 02:44:47,750 --> 02:44:46,000 armies and militaries and police and 4389 02:44:50,550 --> 02:44:47,760 these control mechanisms 4390 02:44:51,190 --> 02:44:50,560 to make sure that everybody is staying 4391 02:44:53,590 --> 02:44:51,200 in check 4392 02:44:55,190 --> 02:44:53,600 so that they don't step outside those 4393 02:44:57,269 --> 02:44:55,200 bounds because of this 4394 02:44:59,269 --> 02:44:57,279 aspect that's afraid doesn't want to go 4395 02:45:01,750 --> 02:44:59,279 there so if you push it too far 4396 02:45:03,349 --> 02:45:01,760 you're going to be stopped using one of 4397 02:45:05,269 --> 02:45:03,359 those modalities 4398 02:45:06,389 --> 02:45:05,279 whether your country out of control an 4399 02:45:08,950 --> 02:45:06,399 army has to be sent 4400 02:45:10,710 --> 02:45:08,960 out to be squashed you know or whether 4401 02:45:12,309 --> 02:45:10,720 you're individual and 4402 02:45:13,990 --> 02:45:12,319 i mean the police is sent over to your 4403 02:45:16,790 --> 02:45:14,000 house you know it all depends 4404 02:45:17,510 --> 02:45:16,800 on how that progression is moving 4405 02:45:20,309 --> 02:45:17,520 forward 4406 02:45:21,110 --> 02:45:20,319 and so that that is basically uh 4407 02:45:23,830 --> 02:45:21,120 regarding 4408 02:45:25,429 --> 02:45:23,840 fab fab 22 to answer your question what 4409 02:45:28,710 --> 02:45:25,439 i've basically understood 4410 02:45:31,750 --> 02:45:28,720 that there's not a 4411 02:45:35,190 --> 02:45:31,760 you know it's not that 4412 02:45:38,950 --> 02:45:35,200 one separate entity from all of us 4413 02:45:39,910 --> 02:45:38,960 is this you know controlling mechanism 4414 02:45:43,510 --> 02:45:39,920 but it's the 4415 02:45:45,590 --> 02:45:43,520 reaction the collective reaction of some 4416 02:45:47,910 --> 02:45:45,600 and then the collective reaction of of 4417 02:45:50,230 --> 02:45:47,920 others you know in our energy together 4418 02:45:52,389 --> 02:45:50,240 that basically creates this dichotomy 4419 02:45:53,510 --> 02:45:52,399 of you have governments but then you 4420 02:45:55,110 --> 02:45:53,520 have these rebels 4421 02:45:56,870 --> 02:45:55,120 right these young kids that want to 4422 02:45:59,349 --> 02:45:56,880 change the world and move 4423 02:46:01,030 --> 02:45:59,359 move forward in new exciting ways and 4424 02:46:02,870 --> 02:46:01,040 let's do everything differently 4425 02:46:04,469 --> 02:46:02,880 you know you know and yet then there's 4426 02:46:06,389 --> 02:46:04,479 the other part says no no no no no 4427 02:46:07,110 --> 02:46:06,399 you're moving too fast let's take this 4428 02:46:09,590 --> 02:46:07,120 step first 4429 02:46:11,510 --> 02:46:09,600 then the step second and sometimes even 4430 02:46:14,870 --> 02:46:11,520 reject a new idea altogether 4431 02:46:18,230 --> 02:46:14,880 you know so it's basically consciousness 4432 02:46:19,269 --> 02:46:18,240 uh interacting with itself and trying to 4433 02:46:21,990 --> 02:46:19,279 work out 4434 02:46:24,950 --> 02:46:22,000 what would be best of moving forward 4435 02:46:27,030 --> 02:46:24,960 while at the same time being afraid 4436 02:46:28,389 --> 02:46:27,040 if that makes sense i hope i hope you 4437 02:46:33,910 --> 02:46:28,399 understood what i'm trying to tell you 4438 02:46:40,150 --> 02:46:37,670 um daniel guy 4439 02:46:40,710 --> 02:46:40,160 hello from australia well hello i don't 4440 02:46:43,269 --> 02:46:40,720 know how 4441 02:46:44,950 --> 02:46:43,279 late it is there but wow thanks for for 4442 02:46:50,230 --> 02:46:44,960 uh chiming in too 4443 02:46:53,670 --> 02:46:50,240 um victor vega says i agree and for the 4444 02:46:55,110 --> 02:46:53,680 season season of life i moved on from 4445 02:46:57,910 --> 02:46:55,120 david wilcox 4446 02:46:59,830 --> 02:46:57,920 he's not my favorite flavor of the 4447 02:47:03,429 --> 02:46:59,840 buffet anymore okay 4448 02:47:11,910 --> 02:47:03,439 got it yeah i mean yeah different people 4449 02:47:11,920 --> 02:47:18,150 all right well um so anyway i think um 4450 02:47:21,349 --> 02:47:20,309 yeah i'm gonna let this uh i'm gonna end 4451 02:47:24,950 --> 02:47:21,359 it here 4452 02:47:25,910 --> 02:47:24,960 but it's been close to two hours 45 4453 02:47:27,750 --> 02:47:25,920 minutes so 4454 02:47:30,230 --> 02:47:27,760 thank you all very much for tuning in 4455 02:47:33,429 --> 02:47:30,240 thanks for being with me this whole time 4456 02:47:36,389 --> 02:47:33,439 i really appreciate it and so um 4457 02:47:36,870 --> 02:47:36,399 please tune in on friday at 7 p.m we're 4458 02:47:39,910 --> 02:47:36,880 gonna 4459 02:47:41,910 --> 02:47:39,920 again cover the topics of psychedelics i 4460 02:47:43,110 --> 02:47:41,920 hope uh you find it intriguing i hope 4461 02:47:46,230 --> 02:47:43,120 you learned something 4462 02:47:48,230 --> 02:47:46,240 and um a week after that i'm gonna have 4463 02:47:50,070 --> 02:47:48,240 again on wednesday open lines and so on 4464 02:47:52,389 --> 02:47:50,080 but i don't want to get too far ahead 4465 02:47:53,510 --> 02:47:52,399 so for now this friday 7 p.m central 4466 02:47:55,110 --> 02:47:53,520 time 4467 02:47:56,630 --> 02:47:55,120 please tune in i'm gonna probably 4468 02:47:59,190 --> 02:47:56,640 already have a 4469 02:48:00,790 --> 02:47:59,200 reminder out and uh pre-schedule the 4470 02:48:01,590 --> 02:48:00,800 show so it's probably already going to 4471 02:48:04,550 --> 02:48:01,600 show up 4472 02:48:05,110 --> 02:48:04,560 on on the ufo hub channel to remind you 4473 02:48:08,309 --> 02:48:05,120 so 4474 02:48:09,750 --> 02:48:08,319 again thank you all very much i hope you 4475 02:48:11,830 --> 02:48:09,760 have a good day good evening 4476 02:48:13,349 --> 02:48:11,840 good morning wherever you are i really 4477 02:48:16,630 --> 02:48:13,359 appreciate it so 4478 02:48:17,429 --> 02:48:16,640 um we'll hopefully talk to some of you 4479 02:48:19,670 --> 02:48:17,439 on friday 4480 02:48:20,710 --> 02:48:19,680 uh keep in mind you can always log into 4481 02:48:22,790 --> 02:48:20,720 telegram and 4482 02:48:23,830 --> 02:48:22,800 when it's time for q a you can actually 4483 02:48:28,070 --> 02:48:23,840 ask questions 4484 02:48:29,830 --> 02:48:28,080 um yourself or like in chat now 4485 02:48:31,269 --> 02:48:29,840 i read some questions that look like 4486 02:48:33,269 --> 02:48:31,279 questions to me but 4487 02:48:35,030 --> 02:48:33,279 generally i always ask please use the 4488 02:48:37,510 --> 02:48:35,040 three stars before you 4489 02:48:39,269 --> 02:48:37,520 um ask the question because then it 4490 02:48:41,830 --> 02:48:39,279 jumps out at me a lot easier 4491 02:48:58,790 --> 02:48:41,840 so again good night thank you all very